Literally none of my posts have been trolling but ok.
Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk
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Chocol8
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Doesn’t the Neve transformer color the tone? I think it was designed to.
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I'm not sure it does really. I've compared various signals through it over the years, never detected any colouration. I do have a couple of Behringturd Ultra-G DI boxes which can do a speaker level THRU as well, so maybe I'll compare. But I'm pretty satisfied with how the Neve sounds.
Karl Houseknecht
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I have to agree with you. I’ve seen some strong opinions and hot takes, but certainly no trolling. He’s probably confused you with someone else.
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Ooooooo.... the plot thickens.....
I did a reamp into my Orange Rockerverb MKIII. First using the Neve DI box. It sounds good. Then I switched to the Behringturd Ultra-G DI box.
With the Ultra-G, the level was a LOT louder... like, tear my head off loud accidentally because my monitors were too loud. Okay... I noticed the pads were not engaged... engaged one of them... a nice healthy level. No hum, no buzz, nothing like that.
my RME interface gain has not changed between these two clips. But you can see the level different I am getting.
And as you can see, it isn't like the Ultra-G is clipping to all mayhem or anything.
Why would the Neve be so quiet in comparison?? I don't know yet. Need to research. My first thought is, maybe it is damaged somehow. But first, continuing with my Rockerverb comparison.
ooooo... and I swear down the Ultra-G has more high-frequency content!
When I level match the clips and compare:
Red == Neve DI box
White == Ultra-G
There are some very very minute differences.
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GTR37
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The “Noboby asked for this , but it’s not awful “ updateYou need to ask for what you don't want
EOengineer
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Is it possible one is putting out instrument or mic level while the other is putting out line?
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Hmmm, I don't think so. But I'll investigate manuals and things later on.
SymphonicDischord
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Man, I’ve had the RNDI for years and it’s never occurred to me to use it this way. Thanks for the reminder! I’ve been curious to try Proxy for myself but I don’t have a proper load box, this solves it. Thanks.
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I suppose so - I think most anything you put in the signal chain will color things to some extent - some much more subtly than others. The direct captures I've made with the RNDI and cab connected sound much better than doing the same capture connected solely to a load box, and I've always attributed that improvement to having the cab connected, but perhaps the RNDI is making more of an improvement than I thought? I'll do some more experimenting to see.
One thing with the RNDI and Proxy clones... To make an amp-only clone, you'll need to use the 1/4" in (FX Loop 4 In). The RNDI needs to be connected via XLR with Phantom power, so you can't really just output RNDI straight to Stadium to make the clone. The way I do it is I connect the RNDI to a mic input on my audio interface (Apollo), and then I pass the signal through one of the outputs in Apollo to Stadium. This lets me fine tune the level out of the amp into Stadium as well.
I do essentially the same thing when making amp+cab captures. Both mics/pres/EQ go into Apollo, get summed to mono, and sent out to Stadium's XLR input for the clone.
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