Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

aviraleada said:
I am new to the forum - maybe I missed something? yeah definitely - there is pages and pages of info mostly unrelated to what I am looking for. I am not even a customer yet - so I can be easily ignored :)
But I would love to see it on official website or release notes. Maybe they do it, maybe they don't - up to them.
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Quick question: Are you aware of any amp modeling company that puts out a forward-leaning roadmap of the exact amps they plan to model?
 
aviraleada said:
I am new to the forum - maybe I missed something? yeah definitely - there is pages and pages of info mostly unrelated to what I am looking for. I am not even a customer yet - so I can be easily ignored :)
But I would love to see it on official website or release notes. Maybe they do it, maybe they don't - up to them.
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They don't publish future plans for obvious competitor reasons.
 
eggpl@nt said:
Neural DSP

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"Hi - we're NDSP, and our new Quad Cortex that we've just announced is going to have every single amp ever created, all on day 1"

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aviraleada said:
I am new to the forum - maybe I missed something? yeah definitely - there is pages and pages of info mostly unrelated to what I am looking for. I am not even a customer yet - so I can be easily ignored :)
But I would love to see it on official website or release notes. Maybe they do it, maybe they don't - up to them.
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We used to be a lot more transparent back when it was just Line 6, Fractal, Kemper, BOSS, DigiTech, and Atomic because we all stayed in our respective lanes, respected each other, and developed and marketed our product lines in good faith. Cliff could talk about some idea he had, and although we could sometimes accurately predict how it might manifest itself, it'd never impact the rest of our plans. Hell, we accidentally came across a photo of an AxeFX III chassis like nine (?) months before Fractal announced it. A couple of us may have zoomed in... twice? and then promptly forgot about it because we didn't want it to impact our work.

The market is very different now and a lot more cutthroat. It's also the reason why we shuttered our Line 6/Ampeg IdeaScale service—no reason to make other companies' Product Managers' jobs easier for them.

So the sign in question that I'd be pointing to would read "We can't talk about future plans," which sucks because I'm really really excited about our future plans.



This reminds me of a story: Back when I was at Roland/BOSS in the late 00s, it was common for us in Product Support to not learn about new products until a week or two before they were announced at NAMM. (US-based Product Marketing Managers would know, but they kept everything top secret.) So we'd have to learn enough to demo the new synths, grooveboxes, multitrack recorders, and guitar processors in mere days, because it'd take a good week to build that massive convention center booth.

Conversely, my very first day at Line 6 (starting as a Technical Writer), my boss invited me into a meeting where they mapped out YEARS of future Line 6 products—hardware/firmware mockups, specs, feature definition, everything. It completely broke my brain and triggered imposter syndrome, like "Why am I here? I'm not supposed to know this stuff!"

I've heard things are much different now at Roland US, but back then, lids were tight.
 
Digital Igloo said:
We used to be a lot more transparent back when it was just Line 6, Fractal, Kemper, BOSS, DigiTech, and Atomic because we all stayed in our respective lanes, respected each other, and developed and marketed our product lines in good faith. Cliff could talk about some idea he had, and although we could sometimes accurately predict how it might manifest itself, it'd never impact the rest of our plans. Hell, we accidentally came across a photo of an AxeFX III chassis like nine (?) months before Fractal announced it. A couple of us may have zoomed in... twice? and then promptly forgot about it because we didn't want it to impact our work.

The market is very different now and a lot more cutthroat. It's also the reason why we shuttered our Line 6/Ampeg IdeaScale service—no reason to make other companies' Product Managers' jobs easier for them.

So the sign in question that I'd be pointing to would read "We can't talk about future plans," which sucks because I'm really really excited about our future plans.



This reminds me of a story: Back when I was at Roland/BOSS in the late 00s, it was common for us in Product Support to not learn about new products until a week or two before they were announced at NAMM. (US-based Product Marketing Managers would know, but they kept everything top secret.) So we'd have to learn enough to demo the new synths, grooveboxes, multitrack recorders, and guitar processors in mere days, because it'd take a good week to build that massive convention center booth.

Conversely, my very first day at Line 6 (starting as a Technical Writer), my boss invited me into a meeting where they mapped out YEARS of future Line 6 products—hardware/firmware mockups, specs, feature definition, everything. It completely broke my brain and triggered imposter syndrome, like "Why am I here? I'm not supposed to know this stuff!"

I've heard things are much different now at Roland US, but back then, lids were tight.
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Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day to provide such an insightful and thoughtful dialogue to my fairly naive question. I appreciate you for it!
I can understand that Line 6 would like to be transparent about future updates but it's also a super competitive market for you and business has to maintain an advantage. I am assuming you are from Line 6 - good luck on your career, life and future!

Some other comments- "Do you know if any other company does it?".
I don't know man :) I don't care, I am interested in Helix and what it's gonna come up with in future. I am leaning heavily towards getting a Stadium next week!

Thanks for all your responses.
 
aviraleada said:
Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day to provide such an insightful and thoughtful dialogue to my fairly naive question. I appreciate you for it!
I can understand that Line 6 would like to be transparent about future updates but it's also a super competitive market for you and business has to maintain an advantage. I am assuming you are from Line 6 - good luck on your career, life and future!

Some other comments- "Do you know if any other company does it?".
I don't know man :) I don't care, I am interested in Helix and what it's gonna come up with in future. I am leaning heavily towards getting a Stadium next week!

Thanks for all your responses.
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All good, brother. I hope you do get it and hope you enjoy the hell out of it. I'm loving my XL.
 
Mongillo19 said:
Are you going to look me in my horizontally situated eyes and tell me you use your phone primarily in landscape mode? Outside of videos of course.

Also, you get a view of about half a post in landscape mode 😂
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Always landscape mode on phones and tablets. I only turn portrait when an app or webpage is broken.
 
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