Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[DG80]

Anyone else finding a lot of warbling issues with the Boctaver or simple pitch blocks..?

 

[ejecta]

Wifi is one of the few modern digital unit additions I could go without.

Times a million. How about improving other things that are lacking first. Sounds like a product of some engineering nerd who had to justify their existence on the design team.

 

[eggpl@nt]

Sounds like a product of some engineering nerd who had to justify their existence on the design team.

personal preferences aside, this is a silly assertion. on the FAS forum alone, I’ve seen more requests for wireless editing than I can count. there is clearly an audience for this feature, even if you and I aren’t a part of it.

 

[JiveTurkey]

It wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't buggy. Though I am not sure if it still is as of now or if that has been fixed?

 

[eggpl@nt]

It wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't buggy. Though I am not sure if it still is as of now or if that has been fixed?

I haven’t found the WiFi editing to be buggy. Getting connected to WiFi and my L6 account was buggy, but I’ve found the WiFi editing to be very smooth. The apps itself is graphically funky (doesn’t scale well, low resolution), but functionally, it’s been sound in my experience.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I haven’t found the WiFi editing to be buggy. Getting connected to WiFi and my L6 account was buggy, but I’ve found the WiFi editing to be very smooth. The apps itself is graphically funky (doesn’t scale well, low resolution), but functionally, it’s been sound in my experience.

My experience with it was pretty much this as well? Some slight funkiness a time or two but overall; good feature imo.

 

[SeeD]

That's not to say I don't have my own quibbles. Personally, I'd like them to implement channels on every block like Fractal does, but they do their best not to outright copy functionality competitors had first.

So when Line 6 is putting a picture of the "this is the original model of this amp", an is writing it's based on a "this amp" I am sure they are doing this for every or amp or drive model, or delay, or modulation....or it's something line 6 made themselves (that is a good thing)

But to copy a Channel option is taking it too far??

So we don't care about the amplifier builders??
The makers of drive, boost, delays, modulation, pitch pedals?
This is Marshall, this is Bogner, this is a Fender, this is a Vox, this is a Boss pedal... ETC...



Really curious here...

 

[DanRad]

Would anyone else find it useful to be able to sort presets in the desktop librarian alphabetically?

That would make creating set lists much easier. I wonder how hard that would be to implement?

 

[JiveTurkey]

So when Line 6 is putting a picture of the "this is the original model of this amp", an is writing it's based on a "this amp" I am sure they are doing this for every or amp or drive model, or delay, or modulation....or it's something line 6 made themselves (that is a good thing)

But to copy a Channel option is taking it too far??

So we don't care about the amplifier builders??
The makers of drive, boost, delays, modulation, pitch pedals?
This is Marshall, this is Bogner, this is a Fender, this is a Vox, this is a Boss pedal... ETC...



Really curious here...

This is a great point actually.

 

[ian_dissonance]

Yeah, a good idea is a good idea.

 

[molul]

It algo brings a new fear to the table: if a competitor adds an awesome feature to its product, we will never have it in Helix?

 

[Enchilada Jones]

So when Line 6 is putting a picture of the "this is the original model of this amp", an is writing it's based on a "this amp" I am sure they are doing this for every or amp or drive model, or delay, or modulation....or it's something line 6 made themselves (that is a good thing)

But to copy a Channel option is taking it too far??

So we don't care about the amplifier builders??
The makers of drive, boost, delays, modulation, pitch pedals?
This is Marshall, this is Bogner, this is a Fender, this is a Vox, this is a Boss pedal... ETC...



Really curious here...

I agree they should just do it. However, I think the difference in that analogy is an amp and thing that makes sound like an amp are far enough removed from each other that it isn’t stealing. Harley Davidson learned that lesson in a courtroom when the judge said, No, Honda has not stolen your ‘V twin engine sound’
Whereas, by comparison, Fractal and Line 6 do make things that are relatively the same thing.
( Or, maybe they felt bad for Fractal’s ongoing struggle for friendly user interface I didn’t want pour salt on that wound by co-opting one of their best features in that realm )

 

[MIJLOVER]

Or maybe they’re looking at a way to accomplish the same basic thing in a way they think is even better?

DI did point out that there’s also a compromise DSP wise implementing it that way (you kind of have to allocate enough DSP to the amp side of things so there’s enough to pick the most intensive at any point, or grey out the ones that are too heavy in the particular preset) although I don’t anyone would really mind it too much.

Giving people the options wouldn’t hurt, but they could very well come out with something that makes this a moot point - just like Scenes vs snapshots.

 

[SeeD]

I think it's a good thing for me as a customer and as a guitar player, that if I were to change modeler, I would like it to be easy for me to make that change?

And not make it hard to get used to a new Unit. Making units more similar, is a good thing for users. I get that it would be looked at, that is stealing other people's idea..

Just take a look at Xiaomi with the 17 Ultra (this is a really good phone) but to go head to head with Apple, Xiaomi did skip Xiaomi 16 Ultra, just to be on the same number as Apple this year, and just launched Xiaomi 17 Ultra haha!
They even put a screen on the back where the camera bump is that is the ultimate fu** you but the phones look quiet similar, even the UI looks more apple-isj now. But in the software there is some really cool things that Apple doesn't have, an on the picture quality they kind of win a lot.

Fender stole from radio stuff, Marshall from Fender.. and so on ... This is how the world works now.

When the Line 6 guys say, we did not really want to release a capturing option, cause we respect Kemper so much, yeah...
This is not how you hang with the big boys in the end. You go head to head and and do something Even Better..
Cool, you can capture an amplifier...
...but look what we can do,... we can also do that, but we can also capture a modulation effects, a delay effect, this folks need to push the envelope

Like Quad Cortex did.. look we can have 7 captures in a row.. for me as a user this is really good to have.

I get that this is a slippery slope, but it's really how the world works now. Things need to be pushed in the right Direction, and a lot of the time this is in the same Direction as others.

 

[JiveTurkey]

It's a weird mix of respecting that they want to do things different but also sometimes re-inventing the wheel isn't necessary.

 

[mikah912]

To be clear, I actually favor outright ripping off certain features if they're helpful enough as well.

I have my hopes Proxy will go beyond just existing profiling/capturing options. But they certainly haven't announced it doing anything that their competitors don't - yet. People are nothing but excited for it, and they haven't been dinged in any way.

That should show them that it's ok to copy/catch up to features. I'm way more into channels than global blocks, but the sentiment is the same.

That being said, even if they'd agree....I don't think movement on either of these is happening anytime soon. It's great that Fractal has channels and global blocks and BOSS has global blocks, but neither of them has that same bifurcated system architecture like Line 6 does. I would imagine making that work on either front would require significant re-engineering.

And as I keep saying, we're barely 90 days past the Stadium XL launch. They're still killing bugs, about to introduce a whole new feature (Proxy) and have more expansion to do with Showcase. And that doesn't account for whatever roadmap items were already put into place to take up the rest of 2026's (and probably 2027) development bandwidth.

 

[mikah912]

I haven’t found the WiFi editing to be buggy. Getting connected to WiFi and my L6 account was buggy, but I’ve found the WiFi editing to be very smooth. The apps itself is graphically funky (doesn’t scale well, low resolution), but functionally, it’s been sound in my experience.

Same here. I will say no one has been able to implement seamless WiFi functionality across the board from the rip. I've used Fender's Pro Control app for the ToneMaster Pro, BOSS's whatever studio app for the latter GT/GX units and Neurals's QC app.

There are just too many points of failure between operating system updates, router updates and configurations, signal frequency bands and the like. Just endless combinations of those, really, and all you can do is equip it with the best WiFi hardware at the time and target stability for the biggest demographics.

 

[SeeD]

Eric did say in a teaser interview that Proxy would be able to capture probably modulation and time based efx, if my memory is correct.
That would not be the usual suspects of capturing

 

[dbfretz]

Eric did say in a teaser interview that Proxy would be able to capture probably modulation and time based efx, if my memory is correct.
That would not be the usual suspects of capturing

Doubt that’s the case, or else it would have been done.

 

[mikah912]

Doubt that’s the case, or else it would have been done.

How could it have been done when the feature has yet to launch?