Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[[Nathan]]

They're always very reluctant to give us useful things like this! But personally... I can count the number of times I ever used the ripple control on one hand!!

I always use it..... to set it to 0

 

[GTR37]

Do you guys just turn ripple and hum to 0 always? Or leave at the default? Both default to 5 on most models.

I have a hard time hearing ripple at all, but hum definitely sounds like the description above to me. I have to admit I kind of like what it does to the texture of the distortion on some of the tweed models though. Sometimes.

On vintage amps yeah I might leave default
Modern hi gainers I would turn it off w the sag much lower like 2

 

[[Nathan]]

To be clear, I'm fine with anyone doing a comparison of Line 6's Agoura model of amp X and their own personal amp X. It's a data point, and that can absolutely be useful. Also, Line 6 makes mistakes and I personally would want those to be identified so they can fix them.

They would want those to be identified so they can fix them!

But people aren't just speculating on too litlle information....they're jumping to definitive conclusions. Line 6 has said they're taking a look at the behavior

Until they have something to say on that matter, people should pump the brakes and wait.

You nailed it imo!

All I know is I've used a bunch of SLO sims and this one at the same settings seems to swing more in an odd direction than others. Happy to be told its because of xyz and im doing something wrong, or hopefully the feedback is taken on board and it gets looked at.

If nothing comes of it then what do I care, it is what it is and everyone will experience that kind of drift in sound. If it does get looked at and they find that they need to carry the Y and all of a sudden things are one notch better, then great.

I just dislike the gaslighting and coping when theres a bunch of clips being showed and one of them seems to have a common denominator difference... USE UR EAARZ BRO. Anyway here's hoping they find something and it gets improved... and if it doesnt then its still a great digital amp to play, I just need to hit it with more mids and be careful on the top end, no big deal.

 

[[Nathan]]

Z PrePost

While we're here how is everyone approaching this? Its instantly one of those parameters that doesnt seem to change much. Im almost confused at why its there and I wonder if I'm missing out on anything and not using it to its full potential.

Also beta testers if you're lurking there's a bunch of these descriptions that seem to cut off in Stadium Edit. You can't scroll down to see the last line either, get on it

 

[EOengineer]

Z PrePost

While we're here how is everyone approaching this? Its instantly one of those parameters that doesnt seem to change much. Im almost confused at why its there and I wonder if I'm missing out on anything and not using it to its full potential.

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Also beta testers if you're lurking there's a bunch of these descriptions that seem to cut off in Stadium Edit. You can't scroll down to see the last line either, get on it

I keep finding myself cranking that all the way to the right. It’s doing something subtle I like but it’s hard to describe the effect.

 

[Lysander]

Its instantly one of those parameters that doesnt seem to change much. Im almost confused at why its there and I wonder if I'm missing out on anything and not using t to its full potential.

You're going to love Fractal then

 

[AlbertA]

Z PrePost

While we're here how is everyone approaching this? Its instantly one of those parameters that doesnt seem to change much. Im almost confused at why its there and I wonder if I'm missing out on anything and not using it to its full potential.

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Also beta testers if you're lurking there's a bunch of these descriptions that seem to cut off in Stadium Edit. You can't scroll down to see the last line either, get on it

I figure, higher values are more a little more tighter, stiffer
Lower would be a little more loose - its subtle.

I think pre means the SIC comes before power amp tube distortion, post completely after power tube distortion. So Pre could result in more power amp distortion at the resonance peaks.

 

[dean701]

I'm sure you've seen this but just in case

it relates to the location of the SIC

 

[[Nathan]]

You're going to love Fractal then

Haha, 500 more knobs to ignore
I used some of the stuff there but this one is just "one" I always think, what does this even do in the real world

 

[[Nathan]]

The way I interpret it, the SIC is applied either at pre power amp or post power amp.

Im not the most technical amp nerd in the world but does this make sense?
If an amp plugged into a cab has an interaction, why is there an option to move that kind of thing back and forth? Can this be done in the real world? My brain just doesnt understand why it exists as the one sort of advanced parameter they're giving us.

When I compare it to FAS's selectable SIC's I can immediately see the value in that, this I kind of don't get.

Ok I re-read your description 3 times and I kind of get it. I guess in the real world I'd always be using an amp like an amp so the SIC interaction would be at the poweramp level and this would be set all the way to the right. And to dovetail that I guess if something was super boomy with the cab then I can roll it down a bit and it would get tamed (in theory).