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Jokes on you she’s not house broken.
Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk
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JiveTurkey
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Sure thing. Here you go:
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Two are Agora 5153 Red and one is the real amp. One 5153 Agora has the settings set similar to the amp and the other was adjusted to get closer. I adjusted the settings based on how I remembered them sounding different, so it definitely isn't science.
Issues that I can see:
1. I am using a Mesa 2x12 cabinet for the load which has a different SIC.
2. I am using a Neve RNDI to capture the amp.
3. My reamp chain could definitely affect the outcome.
This is just the amp block and IR, it isn't intended to sound great. I recorded both amps without the IR then exported the audio files with the IR later.
The reamp for the Stadium was done over SPDIF.
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Sascha Franck
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I didn't even say it was groundbreaking. Pretty much anything follows the same UI evolution, there's no clear inventor.
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Oh, don't backpedal now, my friend:
There were numerous floor-based PODs before GT-10, and I've illustrated how they (and not GT-10) inspired Helix and its brethren. Again, what is it about GT-10 that was, if not groundbreaking, somehow representative of what you're claiming above? You've mentioned GT-10 many times in the past, and I honestly would like to know, because this stuff fascinates me. And it's my job, of course.
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Sascha Franck
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What's wrong with my statement that many things seen in the GT-10 can be seen in Helix et al? I wasn't aware that the POD X3 was released earlier. But that doesn't make my statement wrong. Because the POD X3 was an evolution of previous UI concepts as well already.
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Okay. Like what? Which specific UI elements of the GT-10 are found in Helix that weren't already in the POD X3 Live a year earlier?
Okay. Like what? Besides our own POD XT Live (2004)?
Without specifics, it kinda sounds like you're trying to play vague contrarian, so if I call out a company for shamelessly lifting Helix's detailed signal flow layout, DSP allocation, snapshot implementation, Command Center implementation, and dozens more, that's hypocritical of me because Line 6 isn't the first company to make a box with switches and a display that happens to lie on the floor?
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molul
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Because that's never happened and never will. Yeah, we know.
Or was that vice versa? It gets so confusing.
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Ya know what you should have copied from Boss?
Input dynamic parameter modulation that I’m sure is coming as a tagalong to the side-chaining features.
Input dynamic parameter modulation that I’m sure is coming as a tagalong to the side-chaining features.
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Don’t lead off with an obvious lie!
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Yes, but according to Sascha's vague qualifiers, BOSS doesn't get credit because that sort of thing existed in modular synths back in the late 1950s.
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Much better!
So, for really the first time since I got it, I had some time to just fiddle around with some of the Agoura amps. Damn, they are nice. I don't have a ton of experience with real amps (and almost none with tube amps; my first amp was a Peavey solid state amp and then I pretty much went to early forms of modeling (Digitech DSP 256 then to GarageBand then to BiasFX and then, finally, to Pod Go and then Helix). But these amps not only sound good, they just make me want to keep playing. There's just some rich harmonic goodness out of every one that is so inspiring.
That's all I have to say about that.
That's all I have to say about that.
Sascha Franck
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I didn't even say it was hypocritical. It's just not that anyone really invented this design, hence noone has really stolen things.
I bet you think Google came up wtih the Android UI without any influence from iPhone, too.
Sascha Franck
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No. I don't think so. But in case you've watched Kubrick's 2001, you will as well know the iPhone (or even iPad) concept existed before.
