EOengineer
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It’s my understanding that, at least in fw 1.1, the next boot after adding IRs can be slower than normal due to Stadium indexing the new files.
Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk
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I don't have a Stadium yet, but the QC has a lot of similar... I wouldn't call them bugs; more like annoying conventions. Like, if you're in one of your personal setlists and you download a new preset, it tries to drop it in the first available slot of the default "My Presets" setlist instead, so you have to fiddle around navigating back to the setlist and bank you were previously in. I generally have setlists named by year to group presets relevant to current works in progress, and I can't remember once being happy about being arbitrarily yanked out of that context.
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As expected, Line 6 is already on the case. :)
Los-D
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Karl Houseknecht
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I haven’t had that happen but I have had other odd behaviors occur right after loading IRs. Presets appearing to save or being deleted but not actually saving or deleting. Saving as new resulting in a blank preset. Reboot solves it. Always happens after loading IRs.
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I find myself doing this often
Mooselake
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I've had 2 full weeks with the Stadium as of last night.
My only "complaint" is that I'm one of people having some trouble with the editor app/device connection. It's a mild inconvenience and even though nothing has been stated about it by Line 6 I'm pretty confident at this point it'll be cleared up within an update or two.
The overarching concern for me is what is the experience like once I ignore the Stadium and just play. There are two components to that in my way of thinking. First is how does it sound to me. The answer to that is that I think it sounds great and to my ears it's a pretty clear improvement over the OG LT. I don't say that offhandedly because I always felt like my LT sounded really good. I can't make any judgements relative to Fractal devices or the QC, etc. The other part of the playing experience is the sort of nebulous "feel" component. I'm not sure my sense of that aligns with that of someone who's spent a lot of time with a variety of physical amps. Fwiw, I do sense a little more responsiveness to variation in pick attack, and a little less murkiness with the lower strings that lets me play a little more freely, and not be so anxious to dial out lows/lower mids in presets and pick the lower strings delicately. That opinion and a 5-dollar bill is worth a good three bucks just about anywhere you go.
The one upside to having some little wifi foibles is that I've spent more time driving the hardware directly than I normally would. The physical layout of my music space makes editing on PC much more practical. The unit's physical UI is impressive. I haven't got too sporty with what I've attempted to do, but everything I've tried has been super easy. Easy enough I'm thinking about how I might rearrange my space or relocate things to make the device itself more accessible so I can do more directly on it.
I underestimated the focus zones feature. I felt like it was a cool thing but I suppose I'd also thought of it as something in the bells 'n whistles category. Not really a gimmick but something that in practice wouldn't quite live up to the implication of the concept. But I've found it extremely useful and the times I've used it, it has alleviated essentially all of the frustration and hair pulling I'd often experience trying to get a workable sound out of something. It lowers the inertia that often kept me sticking with tried-n-true patches because I didn't want the headache of wrangling a new one.
I haven't played around with the hype control as much as I have focus zones. It seems like a neat way to goose the sound a little. Maybe when I get around to trying to record something some day it'll be that little dash of sauce to help something stand out in a context. With just a guitar alone it's not something I've found essential yet.
I do seem to like the OG delays and reverbs a little better on the Stadium platform. I don't know if that's because the sounds from the Aqoura amps going into them give them something better to work with, or if the extra snr/oversampling and the like are causing them to execute a little better. I can't comment on whether the OG amp models sound better on the new platform because I haven't spent much time with them, and having both the OG LT and Stadium both running and set up for any sort of A/B test is impractical at best in my space. They sound good, and it's safe to say they don't sound worse.
For me, Stadium is a keeper. Looking forward to 1.2 and beyond.
My only "complaint" is that I'm one of people having some trouble with the editor app/device connection. It's a mild inconvenience and even though nothing has been stated about it by Line 6 I'm pretty confident at this point it'll be cleared up within an update or two.
The overarching concern for me is what is the experience like once I ignore the Stadium and just play. There are two components to that in my way of thinking. First is how does it sound to me. The answer to that is that I think it sounds great and to my ears it's a pretty clear improvement over the OG LT. I don't say that offhandedly because I always felt like my LT sounded really good. I can't make any judgements relative to Fractal devices or the QC, etc. The other part of the playing experience is the sort of nebulous "feel" component. I'm not sure my sense of that aligns with that of someone who's spent a lot of time with a variety of physical amps. Fwiw, I do sense a little more responsiveness to variation in pick attack, and a little less murkiness with the lower strings that lets me play a little more freely, and not be so anxious to dial out lows/lower mids in presets and pick the lower strings delicately. That opinion and a 5-dollar bill is worth a good three bucks just about anywhere you go.
The one upside to having some little wifi foibles is that I've spent more time driving the hardware directly than I normally would. The physical layout of my music space makes editing on PC much more practical. The unit's physical UI is impressive. I haven't got too sporty with what I've attempted to do, but everything I've tried has been super easy. Easy enough I'm thinking about how I might rearrange my space or relocate things to make the device itself more accessible so I can do more directly on it.
I underestimated the focus zones feature. I felt like it was a cool thing but I suppose I'd also thought of it as something in the bells 'n whistles category. Not really a gimmick but something that in practice wouldn't quite live up to the implication of the concept. But I've found it extremely useful and the times I've used it, it has alleviated essentially all of the frustration and hair pulling I'd often experience trying to get a workable sound out of something. It lowers the inertia that often kept me sticking with tried-n-true patches because I didn't want the headache of wrangling a new one.
I haven't played around with the hype control as much as I have focus zones. It seems like a neat way to goose the sound a little. Maybe when I get around to trying to record something some day it'll be that little dash of sauce to help something stand out in a context. With just a guitar alone it's not something I've found essential yet.
I do seem to like the OG delays and reverbs a little better on the Stadium platform. I don't know if that's because the sounds from the Aqoura amps going into them give them something better to work with, or if the extra snr/oversampling and the like are causing them to execute a little better. I can't comment on whether the OG amp models sound better on the new platform because I haven't spent much time with them, and having both the OG LT and Stadium both running and set up for any sort of A/B test is impractical at best in my space. They sound good, and it's safe to say they don't sound worse.
For me, Stadium is a keeper. Looking forward to 1.2 and beyond.
texhex
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Congratulations! You won. You definitely won. Fractal won!
On a more serious note, the "good" thing about people talking latency or boot time is that it can influence the manufacturer in improving these metrics, and no one will complain about that.
I'm pretty sure that Line 6 will deliver down the line (like they did for the OG Helix). Their priority is hopefully on more important matters: stability, fixing the little bugs and delivering not-on-release™ features.
And we'll get a Lonestar and a IIC+ for Christmas, yoohoo !!!
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'Cause you're all sleeping on preset clips, someone actually made a video of all 64 (both wet and dry):
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JiveTurkey
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Tex was joking 
Is it 1.2 Friday? <ducks>
Is it 1.2 Friday? <ducks>
Tex was joking
Is it 1.2 Friday? <ducks>
Keeping with their usual Tuesday parlance, it'll probably be the 16th. Taking it to the 23rd is tough, and then you're on the hook for support issues/hotfixes around Christmas and the ensuing weekend. Blech!
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You're missing a Tuesday!
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Yep - 9th and 16th are two target dates.
To be fair you could do this in the OG helix too. You just needed the looper at the front of the chain. Record a short loop and tweak away. I still do it all the time to dial in patches.
9th would be cool, but I hold out no hope for it.
