Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[ian_dissonance]

I think the general consensus has been the test results don’t matter if you can listen to the source and the clone back to back and decide for yourself. That doesn’t negate the idea that capturing/cloning/profiling is SUPPOSED to be as close to the source as possible, nor does it change that fact that something that arguably sounds noticeably different from the source can’t sound good of be fun to play. That just means it’s not (as) accurate. So far the only one of these technologies that consistently sounds different the source has been the Kemper (to my ear), even with V2. A couple of the original v2 A\B posts were even obvious on a cell phone speaker. I think one platform catches more flack because they “created” the space and haven’t tried to make any real moves since.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Using residual audio’s level in LUFS to rank the accuracy of different capture tech was never considered valid. People were criticising the sound of Kemper’s capturing with no need to bring up null tests - it’s easy enough to just listen to

 

[EOengineer]

Brb gonna try bribing Leo to upload silent null test files for his next comparison. Trolling has never been this easy.

 

[contrario]

The old and new models sound quite different with the new one being way more scooped. I want to say that the old model sounds more like the Proxy capture here - there's a kind of nasal/forward midrange thing on those, where the Agoura model sounds more scooped (and gainy and bassy) by comparison. The old Helix model definitely has some "legacy" characteristics in the gain that the Agoura model improves on (the character of the gain is nicer and more dynamic). No idea what accounts for the old and new models sound different in their voicing. Would love to know what these differences are down to.

Even after the bug fixes related to SIC and the introduction of Proxy with the 1.3 update, I think HX models still sound more accurate than Augora. Augora models may feel and sound better but they're less accurate.

At first I just thought the the difference between the real amp and Augora samples shared here might have been related to the mentioned bugs but now I think L6 is doing something very different or wrong when measuring/modelling amps with the Augora engine. I hope this will somehow get noticed and resolved along the way. Otherwise, I'm sticking with my HX Stomp/Native.