Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

Wow.......and they say the Fractalites are uptight........
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I will say, subjectively, the amps do sound good - never denied that. The Bogner XTC's are better than the Fractal ones, by some margin too IMO.
 
I will say, subjectively, the amps do sound good - never denied that. The Bogner XTC's are better than the Fractal ones, by some margin too IMO.
That one is a completely different amp though line6 has an older 101b FAS is the 20th Anniversary , different circuit
Different voltages
So yes I prefer the older one Line6 has too
 
It’s only a “shitstorm” if someone gets defensive about it, lol.

I missed this pearl, dear Ian.

This is the exact chain of events, feel free to check it by yourself.

Karl post the clips he was asked for, me and others shared thoughts about those clips, we all agree that there are small differences but the clips sounded really close.

Then Mr big dick enter the scene basically telling Karl that he is deaf but it's ok.

You can read it here
But there's a distinct difference that jumps out in those clips @Karl Houseknecht and if you cannot hear it, more power to you. Keep enjoying your gear.

I quote mr you-don't-know-who-I-am with these exact words. Read them all.

I don't own a Stadium and I can't speak for the Agoura models in general, meaning you might be right about the new line6 modelling on other amps or even this amp with different settings.

But come on, there is no distinct difference that jumps out in those clips. That's an hyperbole.

There is a difference, a small one, that in the context of those clips, the only one we can judge,
is really irrelevant.

he immediately went in classic douchebag mode with this reply. No more, no less.

Then you simply do not have critical listening skills. Even through Soundcloud compression it was obvious.

Guess who is defensive here.
Yes, Mr here's-my-resume

Everything else that followed is too cringe to be true. Still there to be enjoyed, though.

Cheers.
 
Well, despite all this, I got my Stadion XL today, and I've got to say, I'm really impressed by it.

There's a notable difference in the amps, particularly for me the Deluxe Reverb, which is my primary in the OG Helix. I found there was a lot of extra flexibility now with the Z-Post control, which seems to compensate nicely for this amp having a little less gain. I'm way happier with the amp tones. I find that they're far more responsive and dynamic, especially with the guitar’s volume pot. I roll down the volume and the amp stays there but just clears up nicely. It also manages to sound chewy and full without sounding congested.

All the effects sound excellent as before, maybe slightly better now with the added dynamic range, but I haven't really focused on that so far.

The hardware is gorgeous. Smaller, better, bigger screen. It took me 20 minutes before I started tapping on my OG Helix screen trying to do things. It also took me a while to realize, but once the room got a bit darker, I noticed that you don't have the massive LED backlight glare from the Scribble Strips on the Stadium. Perhaps they're OLEDs, but there's far less light pollution now, which is a nice touch.

The control knobs have a nice resistance to them and feel sturdy too, and the other UI improvements really work nicely.

I'm going to have to explore the other Agora amps more, but my goal for today was recreating my primary patch, and in every way I'm just far more satisfied now. I also managed to get everything I ever wanted into my patch, plus more, plus two stereo Agora amps which I wasn't sure would be possible. So yeah, a great outcome. Thanks for all the hard work @Digital Igloo .
 
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Well, despite all this, I got my Stadion XL today, and I've got to say, I'm really impressed by it.

There's a notable difference in the amps, particularly for me the Deluxe Reverb, which is my primary in the OG Helix. I found there was a lot of extra flexibility now with the Z-Post control, which seems to compensate nicely for this amp having a little less gain. I'm way happier with the amp tones. I find that they're far more responsive and dynamic, especially with the guitar’s volume pot. I roll down the volume and the amp stays there but just clears up nicely. It also manages to sound chewy and full without sounding congested.

All the effects sound excellent as before, maybe slightly better now with the added dynamic range, but I haven't really focused on that so far.

The hardware is gorgeous. Smaller, better, bigger screen. It took me 20 minutes before I started tapping on my OG Helix screen trying to do things. It also took me a while to realize, but once the room got a bit darker, I noticed that you don't have the massive LED backlight glare from the Scribble Strips on the Stadium. Perhaps they're OLEDs, but there's far less light pollution now, which is a nice touch.

The control knobs have a nice resistance to them and feel sturdy too Ava ask the other UI improvements really work and for nicely.

I'm going to have to explore the other Agora amps more, but my goal for today was recreating my primary patch, and in every way I'm just far more satisfied now, so this has been a solid win. Thanks for ask it hard work @Digital Igloo .
So you'd say you're........

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Eating your cake?
 
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