Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[paisleywookiee]

@timbuck3 being a passive-aggressive douche to a post that wasn't intended to be comedic or funny. Keep being a weirdo, Tim.

 

[Vic Winters]

My #1 homie. The only living thing that consistently enjoys my guitar racket.

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I used to date someone who had 2 Weims. They were the best.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I used to date someone who had 2 Weims. They were the best.

Bendiest (is that a word?) dogs ever. I swear their skeletons are all cartilage. Very sweet dogs though, for sure.

 

[Whizzinby]

I used to date someone who had 2 Weims. They were the best.

Yeah they are super smart and energetic. Great around kiddos. Really fun dogs to be around.

 

[molul]

Devs know that devs don’t use ChatGPT.

Sure, and neither search for help on the internet. Just read the good old books like dad

Being against new technology feels unnatural for a dev.

Thanks for the reply :)

For practice purposes, being able to slow down a single stereo track would be more than enough if possible at some point. Here’s hoping - I’m over the moon with the stem splitting stuff anyway but this would be a nice addition if it ever happens.

I didn't realize you meant in real-time. I was thinking of the desktop app being able to pitch shift or increase speed before sending tracks to the device.

 

[Sascha Franck]

But not seeing the potential of AI generated Helix presets because you don't like how chatgpt replies sometimes, I dunno, man...

I see the potential. But it sucks. For the very same reasons why Suno sucks. And pretty much any AI that their creators had the guts of allowing them to enter the world of creativity. They should rot in hell for eternity. And yes, quite unfortunately I am absolutely serious.

 

[molul]

I see the potential. But it sucks. For the very same reasons why Suno sucks. And pretty much any AI that their creators had the guts of allowing them to enter the world of creativity. They should rot in hell for eternity. And yes, quite unfortunately I am absolutely serious.

I think that's just focusing on the negative side every thing in the world has.

To me the problem is when the goal is just making more money, and not (at least a little) being actually excited about what could be created by users.

I can hardly find a negative thing of my idea, so that would already be a good thing coming from AI for creativity.

Another cool use of AI would be being able to create a virtual band to jam with, with the instruments and style you prefer, and being able to react in real time to what you're playing like real musicians do. For people than can't play with other musicians, that would rock.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I think that's just focusing on the negative side every thing in the world has.

No.
In any kind of arts, AI should have no place. There's sufficient paintings, music, statues (etc.) and makers of all of those to supply us for eternity already.

I can hardly find a negative thing of my idea

If you can't create presets yourself, that means you're not exactly mastering the tools you're using.

Another cool use of AI would be being able to create a virtual band to jam with, with the instruments and style you prefer, and being able to react in real time to what you're playing like real musicians do. For people than can't play with other musicians, that would rock.

Maybe. But maybe you'd profit more from learning a DAW. And in case you want interaction, look for other musicians.

 

[JiveTurkey]

If you need AI to dial in sounds on what is supposed to be the easiest to use modeler in the universe; I'd probably just go ahead and stop playing guitar altogether.

 

[paisleywookiee]

If you need AI to dial in sounds on what is supposed to be the easiest to use modeler in the universe; I'd probably just go ahead and stop playing guitar altogether.

When you have a cool new hammer, apparently everything is a nail.

 

[AlbertA]

If you need AI to dial in sounds on what is supposed to be the easiest to use modeler in the universe; I'd probably just go ahead and stop playing guitar altogether.

Don't me post those John Petrucci videos...

 

[EOengineer]

When you have a cool new hammer, apparently everything is a nail.

You see this shit non stop. For every tech sweater vest wearing executive trying to evangelize us to AI all the things on LinkedIn, there are a thousand seasoned engineers narrowly avoiding blindness from the eye roll inducing confident incorrectness of those assertions.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Don't me post those John Petrucci videos...

 

[AlbertA]

You see this shit non stop. For every tech sweater vest wearing executive trying to evangelize us to AI all the things on LinkedIn, there are a thousand seasoned engineers narrowly avoiding blindness from the eye roll inducing confident incorrectness of those assertions.

 

[EOengineer]

I like the part where it’s almost Helix Stadium XL.

I’d like it more if it was currently Helix Stadium XL.

 

[Mooselake]

I think, if we’re honest, that it wouldn’t be such a minority tool (if it can do it) va some of the other things I understand Showcase will eventually do….. the cool stuff with stage automation bits for lighting will be awesome for *some* people who get Stadium. Those are bits I won’t use - right now I’m home studio only so some of Showcase will be beyond my needs (but I’m glad it’s there for the guys that will benefit). If I do gig again, stage lighting will likely be much more low key where the control is someone turning the tripod with the cheap coloured lights on :)

But thinking about things that matter to a wider demographic where showcase could be beneficial to many? We all need to practice and I’m sure we’ve all got different approaches to that. Playing to backing tracks is something I enjoy doing and it’s beneficial to my ability - I really cannot wait for the stem splitting / ability to have backing tracks in this thing. It’s one of the (many) things that caused me to jump manufacturer. Something that (in the box) would allow me to slow down the bits that are too quick (which is usually most of it!!) would be a really cool learning tool. I think anyone who freely admits that playing guitar is hard and requires that you put the time in would, if they’re honest, find something like this feature pretty useful if it’s do-able at some point :)

Yeah, simply being able to make a serviceable backing track out of about anything is also something I can easily see making it into my regimen.

It's probably a bit of a dilemma for them. I'm sure they aspire to make gear that the best of the best would embrace--it's great for their brand, would sell units, and professionally would be very satisfying. But I think you're right that hobbyists and amateurs probably provide a big slice of their sales, and there's nothing wrong with catering to those users too. In the end it probably comes down to resource allocation regarding what they do for which cohort of users in what order.

 

[EOengineer]

Remember when you used to have to torrent the stolen guitar hero and rock band stems to add your own guitars to “Oops I Did It Again” instead of just loading that shiz in your Helix?

 

[ian_dissonance]

You see this shit non stop. For every tech sweater vest wearing executive trying to evangelize us to AI all the things on LinkedIn, there are a thousand seasoned engineers narrowly avoiding blindness from the eye roll inducing confident incorrectness of those assertions.

I can’t wait to spend 160 hours a month as a battery to earn my UBI.

 

[jmcecil]

No.
In any kind of arts, AI should have no place. There's sufficient paintings, music, statues (etc.) and makers of all of those to supply us for eternity already.



If you can't create presets yourself, that means you're not exactly mastering the tools you're using.



Maybe. But maybe you'd profit more from learning a DAW. And in case you want interaction, look for other musicians.

I would caveat that with the vast majority of industry output is not art in any way shape or form. So using AI to automate the process of digestible gruel for the masses has nothing to do with art.

 

[JiveTurkey]