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Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion
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Jarick
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Laxu's design is super cool! I love the idea of a Stadium Stomp which is proportional to the current HX Stomp but larger to accommodate at least one extra switch (maybe two?) and a bigger screen. Somewhere in between the HX Stomp, Stomp XL, and HX Effects IMO. You want a bigger screen with at least one more parameter knob, keep full size MIDI, two effects loops would be killer, etc.
You could keep the HX One (or maybe there's a Stadium Two) as the small pedalboard version, but the Stadium Stomp would be the heart of a pedalboard without needing additional MIDI controllers. Not sure what the DSP would be, but all that functionality would justify a bump in retail price as I'd expect it to land around $900 or so?
You could keep the HX One (or maybe there's a Stadium Two) as the small pedalboard version, but the Stadium Stomp would be the heart of a pedalboard without needing additional MIDI controllers. Not sure what the DSP would be, but all that functionality would justify a bump in retail price as I'd expect it to land around $900 or so?
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Remove the silk screens on the switches and make them do whatever we want. Also; sell a 4 button expansion switch with bi-directional communication to reflect block/switch status
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As an example, the PastFx CE-1 clone provides a SWITCHABLE mod to change the impedance of the classic CE-1 circuit to a more guitar friendly one.
Common mod != everyone uses it that way. You’re proposing an opinionated behavioral change to fit YOUR preference. My preference is to alllw the user to decide what works best for their needs.
I'd like a Stadium Stomp that is slightly larger than the HX Stomp to accommodate the following:
-2 XLR outs on the back. This would be highly appreciated, especially for bass.
-Stack the other jacks on the back for space.
-Move the headphone out to the back, stacked with EXP 1/2. When the stomp wasn't all the way on the left of my board, I'd have to leave a big L adapter plugged into it to make it accessible.
-Split the stereo send on the side into two jacks so I don't have to use a goofy split patch cable.
-5 parameter control knobs instead of 3. The 3 really require a lot of scrolling, and it makes the sometimes suboptimal order of the parameters very apparent.
-As large a screen as will fit on the unit. It still needs a volume knob and the parameter knobs, but I can take or leave the other controls.
I'm undecided on whether it should have a 4th footswitch, but laxu's Turkey Sandwich sure is looking tasty.
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Estimated size based on footswitch size/spacing and under display knob size.
So HX Stomp is still a lot smaller.
The Turkey Sandwich is somewhere between Fractal VP4/HX Effects. Width is probably similar to VP4 while height is closer to HX Effects.
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Oh, I wish I was Japanese. But only on December 16th 2025. Then back to Spanish.
Anyway, I doubt that. Or at least I would find it quite surprising if Line6 released the second device just one month after the first.
I don't expect it sooner than mid February. But I'd love to be wrong.
I think Laxu's design, which everyone likes, is a little on the larger side - this could be the 'Stompium'. They could have another unit closer to current Stomp size for traditional pedalboard use cases - call it Stomp.
From the pastfx.com
"As the Original Ce-1 was designed with keyboards in mind, many guitarists who owned original Ce-1 pedals would replace the 50K pot for a higher value. "
Are you using your Helix with a keyboard?
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The Turkey Sandwich is still a really good size.
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I would take that screen at Turkey Sandwich size all day over the slightly smaller Stomp, even if it is the "better" size.
What S/W are you using for all these mockups?
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If they call it Helix Stadium Stomp (and it would make total sense), rest assured it will be called "the Stompium" in places like this
Helix Stampede
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Not only have I used my Helix for keys, the guy who just bought my Helix last week bought it to use FOR KEYBOARD.
I know there’s a point you’re trying to make. I’m just not sure what it is. Flexibility is flexible. Bad assumptions aren’t.
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I would bet for Helix Stadium M. We already have the XL and L (aka non-XL).If they call it Helix Stadium Stomp (and it would make total sense), rest assured it will be called "the Stompium" in places like this
Helix Stampede
Not only have I used my Helix for keys, the guy who just bought my Helix last week bought it to use FOR KEYBOARD.
I know there’s a point you’re trying to make. I’m just not sure what it is. Flexibility is flexible. Bad assumptions aren’t.
The fact that you can use it with whatever you want does not change the fact it is made mainly for guitar.
from Line6.com
"Helix® amp and effects processors set the standard for ease of use when crafting authentic sounding and feeling guitar tones."
The only assumption is that a modeler created with guitarists as their main user should reflect that. As we've established by the website of the manufacturer of the pedal you used as an example, there's two options, low impedances for keyboards and high impedance for guitar; Helix and related products, as stated by Line 6, are made for guitar players. The better default option is obvious, no? I don't think I'm asking for anything absurd really.
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