Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[GTR37]

I think it's an SM7 on there - which is also a great guitar mic - I prefer it to the SM57. Wonder what the cab is G12H30 speakers?

Yes you are right , missed that SM7 I think it might be just a lil smoother on the top end ?
Any dynamic though the 57/SM7/421 is going to be great for capturing a good rock tone IMO

 

[banned]

Seems like it's the Park 75 cab, which has 4x G12H30s, but with a slightly different name.

Good cab! (and underrated amp model too imo)

Not just underrated - one of the best amps out there, and one of the best amp models in the Helix. The Park75 is royalty as far as I'm concerned.

 

[EOengineer]

Damn, THAT sounds like a great Plexi 800 to me.

Listening to this on an Edison phonograph can confirm it does not sound like the amp is in the room.

Spoiler

It sounds really good in the cans. Congrats, L6! This was THE CLIP to start with.

 

[mikah912]

Which bring me to another question - how much horsepower does the Stadium have? How does it compare to other units like Fractal FM9 Turbo( or whatever the latest is), AxeFX3, Fender Tonemaster Pro and the QC?

Igor said it's roughly double the current Helix Floor on paper, but the actual allotment depends on their continuing optimizations and also how much the GPU will be kicking in.

But dual Agoura amps with a good amount of effects is doable right now. Should only get better.

 

[banned]

Igor said it's roughly double the current Helix Floor on paper, but the actual allotment depends on their continuing optimizations and also how much the GPU will be kicking in.

But dual Agoura amps with a good amount of effects is doable right now. Should only get better.

Do you know where that would put it relative to the others - Fractal, Fender, QC?

Do the others have a GPU? Is the GPU just for the TS or is it going to do some AI for tone (proxy or otherwise)? Anyone know?

 

[LP59]

Do the others have a GPU? Is the GPU just for the TS or is it going to do some AI for tone (proxy or otherwise)? Anyone know?

Just a guess, but a dedicated GPU would be overkill for a small touchscreen that only serves as a UI. The obvious place to use it would be Proxy, but it could possibly be used to accelerate some other things, even amp sims and drive effects. AFAIK, Stadium is the first modeler that contains a GPU. I doubt it would make sense to dedicate the necessary storage on the device for AI features, but who knows.The inclusion of a GPU might be the most notable thing about the hardware.

 

[mikah912]

Do you know where that would put it relative to the others - Fractal, Fender, QC?

Do the others have a GPU? Is the GPU just for the TS or is it going to do some AI for tone (proxy or otherwise)? Anyone know?

Fender TMP is a black hole. No idea there.

No one knows what's in the Stadium for sure, but I believe it's the updated version of whatever ARM SoC is in QC and Fractal, but running at a higher clock speed and with other incremental improvements in bandwidth, memory and other things.

 

[JiveTurkey]

What do we think is going to happen to the TBP once Stadium is out?

 

[AlbertA]

What do we think is going to happen to the TBP once Stadium is out?

hopefully goes down in price and remains relevant.

 

[laxu]

Just a guess, but a dedicated GPU would be overkill for a small touchscreen that only serves as a UI. The obvious place to use it would be Proxy, but it could possibly be used to accelerate some other things, even amp sims and drive effects. AFAIK, Stadium is the first modeler that contains a GPU. I doubt it would make sense to dedicate the necessary storage on the device for AI features, but who knows.The inclusion of a GPU might be the most notable thing about the hardware.

GPU in itself doesn't mean much. Smartphones have a GPU, crappy laptops have one. It doesn't necessarily even mean there's anything on the GPU that can be used for any sort of machine learning acceleration.

It could be simply to drive the touchscreen UI smoothly.

 

[Digital Igloo]

It could be simply to drive the touchscreen UI smoothly.

Part of it is, yeah.

 

[banned]

Part of it is, yeah.

Confirmed: GPU is there for ML routines

Great news!

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Can the machine learn to play so I don't have to?

 

[Chocol8]

Can the machine learn to play so I don't have to?

Unfortunately they already have.

 

[DanRad]

Can the machine learn to play so I don't have to?

Like an actual Suck Knob that you could turn down?

 

[banned]

Like an actual Suck Knob that you could turn down?

Is that like the 'Cut' knob version of the Hype knob?

BTW, this is what my youtube looks like after watching that new Helix Stadium video. Do you see it?

The video comes with its own Hype button - good move L6!

 

[Goontone]

Part of it is, yeah.

The other part is when you launch vst support, right?

 

[guyonthefox]

So, I think I'm going to go with this for a stand for the XL when it arrives. That should put it at a good height to make use of the touch screen, and it will be easy enough to move it to the floor when I need to use the foot switches, you know, with my feet.

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Which stand is it? The one with the keyboard? If so do you have a link to it?

 

[DanRad]

Which stand is it? The one with the keyboard? If so do you have a link to it?

No. That will remain as a keyboard stand. It's the empty stand to the right.

 

[Gary_W]

Like an actual Suck Knob that you could turn down?

If you had a control on their called ‘Suck Knob’ that would be worn out before 1.2 was released. Which is why we need the manual so we don’t misuse such things.