Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[JiveTurkey]

It's easy enough to play - you can try it out when you get your unit!

Nuno is the master of that and he's at another level. He's been doing this sound forever -

Dude should start a side project with Brandon Boyd

 

[JiveTurkey]

Not a bridge. More like if we can get the Agoura version to sound and respond better than the 2203 (which is considered one of the best HX amps), we knew we were on the right track.

2203 is still there in the Legacy subcategory if you want something with less DSP. Agoura amps use roughly twice the DSP as their HX counterparts.

So is this clip the Agoura 2203 in the vid? It's been ages since I've seen a Helix current amp model list so some of the names are not on my radar.

 

[GTR37]

It's easy enough to play - you can try it out when you get your unit!

Nuno is the master of that and he's at another level. He's been doing this sound forever -

Except he takes it to extremes
Like the ridiculous rise solo

 

[mikah912]

So is this clip the Agoura 2203 in the vid? It's been ages since I've seen a Helix current amp model list so some of the names are not on my radar.

It is.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Probably coz it's not an Agoura amp I guess ??

It has the Z-PrePost parameter and the Hype knob, so it's Agoura.

 

[banned]

Daayuuuum that sounds great.

What speakers?

 

[synthpenguin]

Damn, THAT sounds like a great Plexi to me.

Sounds amazing and great demo!

 

[GTR37]

I have to agree with Mikah on this one , that is the best clip of the bunch and it looks like not even an OD boost in front
This should easily get into my JVM Orange territory without issue

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Much better sounding amp example IMO. Definitely in line with what I expect

 

[Vic Winters]

Not a bridge. More like if we can get the Agoura version to sound and respond better than the 2203 (which is considered one of the best HX amps), we knew we were on the right track.

2203 is still there in the Legacy subcategory if you want something with less DSP. Agoura amps use roughly twice the DSP as their HX counterparts.

Obviously it will be model dependent, but how much more DSP do the Agoura models take compared to HX? Is there enough DSP to run dual Agoura amps? If so, is there room for anything else after that? (Cab, IR, Verb, etc)

 

[AlbertA]

What speakers?

<atomic CLRS>

 

[banned]

Much better sounding amp example IMO. Definitely in line with what I expect

Just went back and listened to the clip on https://line6.com/helix-stadium/

The Brit2 203MV A sounds great to me! Yes, the micing could have been better...but the core character comes through well enough and it sounds great!

 

[synthpenguin]

Sorry if this has been said, but have the cabs been redone? I mean, I think the current Helix cabs sound great, but I noticed the name for that one was a little different.

 

[banned]

Obviously it will be model dependent, but how much more DSP do the Agoura models take compared to HX? Is there enough DSP to run dual Agoura amps? If so, is there room for anything else after that? (Cab, IR, Verb, etc)

Which bring me to another question - how much horsepower does the Stadium have? How does it compare to other units like Fractal FM9 Turbo( or whatever the latest is), AxeFX3, Fender Tonemaster Pro and the QC?

 

[GTR37]

Obviously it will be model dependent, but how much more DSP do the Agoura models take compared to HX? Is there enough DSP to run dual Agoura amps? If so, is there room for anything else after that? (Cab, IR, Verb, etc)

How many amps can current Helix run , I am thinking 2 or maybe 3 in a preset I can’t recall
That’s why in the future I would love to see the virtual A/B switcher , so you can only use one amp at a time per path but A/b allows you to have 4 in the chain just like the big pro rigs and you can select which state is active
On each path. So essentially
It similar to channels on a Fractal just 2 instead of 4 per amp block

 

[synthpenguin]

How many amps can current Helix run , I am thinking 2 or maybe 3 in a preset I can’t recall
That’s why in the future I would love to see the virtual A/B switcher , so you can only use one amp at a time per path but A/b allows you to have 4 in the chain just like the big pro rigs and you can select which state is active
On each path. So essentially
It similar to channels on a Fractal just 2 instead of 4 per amp block

Something like this would be great.

I think channels is one of the best aspects of Fractal, or at least the one feature that has tempted me most outside of sound quality.

 

[GTR37]

Just went back and listened to the clip on https://line6.com/helix-stadium/

The Brit2 203MV A sounds great to me! Yes, the micing could have been better...but the core character comes through well enough and it sounds great!

The new 800 clip is pretty much the expected result of putting a single 57 on a Marshall cab , I suspect why people are loving it is because it is familiar

 

[synthpenguin]

Are dedicated power amp models on the roadmap? It’s probably not a common use case, but I run synergy preamps into the QC along with captures of my rack mount power amps. It’s not a critical use case for me, but it’s fun to experiment with.

Quoting this from a month ago because I would also love this!

Can you enable/disable the preamp and/or power amp sections of the Agora models? (Im assuming so, but just checking)

Not at launch. Also note that 1.1 won't have Agoura preamps, only full amps. Those are coming a bit later.

So you're telling me there's a chance...

 

[banned]

The new 800 clip is pretty much the expected result of putting a single 57 on a Marshall cab , I suspect why people are loving it is because it is familiar

I think it's an SM7 on there - which is also a great guitar mic - I prefer it to the SM57. Wonder what the cab is G12H30 speakers?

 

[synthpenguin]

I think it's an SM7 on there - which is also a great guitar mic - I prefer it to the SM57. Wonder what the cab is G12H30 speakers?

Seems like it's the Park 75 cab, which has 4x G12H30s, but with a slightly different name.

Good cab! (and underrated amp model too imo)