Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[Dez]

 

[timbuck3]

No rack means no serious big acts are going to use it. Even Kemper has a rack and 99 % of the time when you see it live that’s the format. Same for Axe, 3 is used by big acts and FM 9 for the pub players.

As I said, I wonder if this is just an intern product branching the divide between the old helix and whatever is coming, which is new which is 100% agora everything but they kept the old helix name to get helix people on board so that bridge is going tocarry them to like the next hardware iteration which might come out next year with a whole different name, but the same display orientation stuff

 

[Dez]

No rack means no serious big acts are going to use it. Even Kemper has a rack and 99 % of the time when you see it live that’s the format. Same for Axe, 3 is used by big acts and FM 9 for the pub players.

Serious big acts are currently using the Helix Floor, the QC, and I know of one band that still uses the FX8, so your argument isn’t valid here

 

[Mongillo19]

As I said, I wonder if this is just an intern product branching the divide between the old helix and whatever is coming, which is new which is 100% agora everything but they kept the old helix name to get helix people on board so that bridge is going tocarry them to like the next hardware iteration which might come out next year with a whole different name, but the same display orientation stuff

Tim, you keep saying this. It's one of the stupidest ideas you've put on here. That is truly a remarkable benchmark.

 

[timbuck3]

I can tell it doesn’t sound as good as FAS because it has an attractive, well-thought out user interface. Bedroom players only.

If only fractal had that display, it would be game over

 

[Sleezy E]

Serious big acts are currently using the Helix Floor, the QC, and I know of one band that still uses the FX8, so your argument isn’t valid here

And how many "big time" artists would use a Stadium rack? 10? 25? 50?

They'll sell more floor units in Armpit Arkansas than they will nationwide to "big artists" wanting a rack version.

 

[timbuck3]

And how many "big time" artists would use a Stadium rack? 10? 25? 50?

They'll sell more floor units in Armpit Arkansas than they will nationwide to "big artists" wanting a rack version.

0 they will get them free

 

[Lysander]

And how many "big time" artists would use a Stadium rack? 10? 25? 50?

Fully anecdotal: i see Helix Racks on a big act stage every now and then, but i see Floors used waaaaaaaaay more often. Same for AxeFX III's vs FM3/9s.

Might be related to touring costs these days. Helices are relatively compact, cheap to travel with and easy to source anywhere in the planet - unlike, say, Fractal gear.

 

[Richard_G]

As I said, I wonder if this is just an intern product branching the divide between the old helix and whatever is coming, which is new which is 100% agora everything but they kept the old helix name to get helix people on board so that bridge is going tocarry them to like the next hardware iteration which might come out next year with a whole different name, but the same display orientation stuff

You can't possibly be serious with this take?!

 

[Mongillo19]

You can't possibly be serious with this take?!

You don't go to Tim if you are looking for serious takes

 

[Frodebro]

Fractal is still limited by only allowing X amount of block types.

Quad cortex, to me, is truly a sandbox. You can place any amount/type of blocks and your only limitation is DSP

The block “limitations” in Fractal units are a nonissue for the vast majority of “normal” signal chains. Even the FM3 can hold its own as a standalone unit in just about any bar band.

 

[HotRats]

As I said, I wonder if this is just an intern product branching the divide between the old helix and whatever is coming, which is new which is 100% agora everything but they kept the old helix name to get helix people on board so that bridge is going tocarry them to like the next hardware iteration which might come out next year with a whole different name, but the same display orientation stuff

Seriously?

 

[HotRats]

No rack means no serious big acts are going to use it. Even Kemper has a rack and 99 % of the time when you see it live that’s the format. Same for Axe, 3 is used by big acts and FM 9 for the pub players.

What does serious big act even mean?

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[Dez]

What does serious big act even mean?

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surely not like John Mayer or anything lol

 

[Frodebro]

What does serious big act even mean?

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It means you have your own fucking jumbo jet, and your lead singer is also the fucking pilot.

 

[Eagle]

Serious big acts are currently using the Helix Floor, the QC, and I know of one band that still uses the FX8, so your argument isn’t valid here

The floor unit makes sense for bar bands but it’s a bad format for people using power amps and cabs.
On a shelf with a third party midi controller?

 

[AlbertA]

It means you have your own fucking jumbo jet, and your lead singer is also the fucking pilot.

 

[Eagle]

That and many more.
Arenas, acts that get paid properly.

 

[Dez]

The floor unit makes sense for bar bands but it’s a bad format for people using power amps and cabs.
On a shelf with a third party midi controller?

Sometimes on a shelf, sometimes on the floor - these aren’t bar bands dude

 

[Eagle]

Sometimes on a shelf, sometimes on the floor - these aren’t bar bands dude

Yes they are.