Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

EOengineer said:
Yeah but hear me out. People who still use legacy cabs aren’t people.
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laxu said:
That's the kind of stuff that 0.01% of users will actually use. Line6 released a programmable ToneCore pedal back in the day with a development kit and I don't think that got anywhere.

Even if a "build your own amp model" thing was a much more simplified thing...very few would be willing to cobble together models from schematics.
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I know. That's why I said "dream". I absolutely 100% agree that this would not be used by many. But it could be a chance for 3rd party market though that is pretty much covered by profiling I guess.
Sascha Franck said:
I don't think that'll ever happen. If you want that much detail, FAS possibly is the better choice.
I also think it'd confuse some L6 customers as they're rather familiar with ease-of-use interfaces. Which I could perfectly understand.
I was only calling it "playground amp" because most of the things (minus separate pre- and power amps) are the thing's I'm using in many, many patches (I think it's similar for many other folks as well, at least when it comes to pre-dirt and post-EQ) - and I simply wish they were more accessible in one single amp block.
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It's nothing that I need in any way. I'm commited to the Helix ecosystem with a Floor and Native and hopefully a Stadium soon and a Stomp soon after. But as a part time DIYer it's something I could imagine.
 
laxu said:
Line6 released a programmable ToneCore pedal back in the day with a development kit and I don't think that got anywhere.
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I've often thought they released that to shut up loudmouth forum dwellers who publicly mused they could do better. Turns out programming these algorithms is pretty freakin hard.
 
Another idea/small request that will probably satisfy about 3 people besides me.

With less constraints on the cab engine, I’d love to see the current ones expanded more.

Capturing all 4 available speakers in each cab, and capturing the full horizontal width. I don’t tend to move mics up or down on a cab so IMO every possible position is redundant. But each speaker sounds a bit different, and different positions in the cab vary a bit too. And they can all be worthwhile depending on the use, and everyone has their preference on what sounds good.

I’d love to hear the other speakers and positions in Line 6’s Uberkab as well as their Mesa. I hate their BV V30 speaker in Helix atm but I wonder if the other 3 speakers in that cab sound like that?

Also loads of engineers famously put mics on different speakers, check photos of how all the Vancouver trained guys do it - GGGarth Richardson, Bob Rock, Mike Plotnikoff, Staub, Mike Fraser etc. Obviously TONS of other guys do similar too. Being constrained to only a small portion of one speaker from a cab is quite limiting

Amplitube has gone pretty far on this stuff and their VIR library is pretty cool now.
 
mikah912 said:
No, same as always. 16 guitar and 6 bass amps. Some of those are multichannel, and the number of total channels is currently 39. The Ampeg 50th anniversary bass amp alone has 5 confirmed channels switchable within the model. So that goes from 22 to 26.

There are 13 more channels to be accounted for. Feels like we're trying to find the final five Cylons or something with this sleuthing.....
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lol well we know they won’t be the Line6 originals so scratch those from the list
 
EOengineer said:
This would be amazing but IMO you quickly start to encounter problematic edge cases. If I want to toggle through revision a-g rectifiers, probably not a huge issue. More significant changes, such as the move to 3 channel models, likely becomes its own model or something.

Not saying it can’t be done or isn’t valuable, as I think it would be an AMAZING feature, but may get hairy.


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I think revisions is where they should sell packs for folks that want them. 90% of the sounds between the revisions are similar - just different knob setting. I'd put them behind a paywall for folks that really want them. Let the core team work on core sounds.
 
I'm so glad the Line6 team is now thinking in terms of amps and not channels - I hope we don't shift the conversation to channels - it is so much nicer to just think of a digital twin of an amp versus thinking in terms of channels.
 
EOengineer said:
What’s the over/under that between all of us here we could orchestrate and execute a covert operation to “borrow” Hetfield’s crunchberries IIC++ and give it to L6 for a few weeks….you know, for sciencing.

They can do their Agoura thing and then we just slip it right back under James’ pillow??

I know he’s all Fractal this and AxeFx that, but who cares. He probably can’t play Blackened anymore anyway.
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Just Proxy the Fractal model.

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