Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[Karl Houseknecht]

Not if we’re lucky.

Agreed. There is something about our locale or venues that makes Relay wireless’s a non-starter. One on stage will kinda work but has severe range limitations and dropout issues. Two on stage, even on different channels, does not work. Shure GLX type? Zero issues. We all use those and like 5 Shure wireless mics without issue.

 

[ian_dissonance]

Agreed. There is something about our locale or venues that makes Relay wireless’s a non-starter. One on stage will kinda work but has severe range limitations and dropout issues. Two on stage, even on different channels, does not work. Shure GLX type? Zero issues. We all use those and like 5 Shure wireless mics without issue.

Inexpensive 2.4ghz wireless is a tough sell for me. Plus the dongle is hideous, lol.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

Inexpensive 2.4ghz wireless is a tough sell for me. Plus the dongle is hideous, lol.

I loved my G10 at home until the update which caused it to no longer be viable. Was a great alternative to running over cables with my chair.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

So... is this new AC30 the CC (Custom Classic)? Seems an odd choice for a modern AC30 over the current hand-wired (like Fractal) or 90's Korg era. I'd assume if it was current production it would be the C2.

There are some clearly answered questions about other features in this video.

@Digital Igloo "Not enough people use Favorites". Seriously? That is like my #1 "favorite" feature on the Helix that makes it so easy to use. And not enough people use it?

 

[molul]

@Digital Igloo "Not enough people use Favorites". Seriously? That is like my #1 "favorite" feature on the Helix that makes it so easy to use. And not enough people use it?

I use it a lot in Native, but barely in my Helix LT. It's not unbearably difficult, but enough to make me prefer setting the user defaults and tweak from there.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

prefer setting the user defaults

User Model Defaults are cool too. I'll use that a lot with amps and some effects. But where I need multiples I use Favorites. Like with cabs, ODs, delays, and reverbs.

 

[dk_ace]

So... is this new AC30 the CC (Custom Classic)? Seems an odd choice for a modern AC30 over the current hand-wired (like Fractal) or 90's Korg era. I'd assume if it was current production it would be the C2.

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There are some clearly answered questions about other features in this video.

@Digital Igloo "Not enough people use Favorites". Seriously? That is like my #1 "favorite" feature on the Helix that makes it so easy to use. And not enough people use it?

I can confirm. Helix was my main rig for years. I used favorites occasionally to store it when I “cloned” a real pedal in helix, something I would only use occasionally and would otherwise lose track of. I never used it for my actual favorites which would have made scratch preset building really easy.

I have the same problem in fractal.

My flawed/broken logic for this is that I’m routinely tweaking those sounds to get them better or more to my tastes at that minute, so no reason to memorialize them. Like I said, it’s dumb. I spend time copying preset templates and going to look for the preset where I had that one block to copy and paste instead…

D

 

[ispunk]

There's also January, February and March 2025. We might get a surprise from the past.

That sounds like the kind of surprise where you have to pay support for the next 18 years

 

[bucephalus]

I think he’s just holding a grudge still over that incident with the tea in the harbor.

It was a waste of a lot of tea to be fair.

 

[bucephalus]

Think of it like color .... what is the objectively "correct" or "right" shade of Blue ... there is no objective or true answer and there never will be.

Erm, there's literally an idiom for "true blue"

 

[guyonthefox]

Haahaaa! That's hilarious, but I created nothing alone.

Am but one cog in a big wheel of awesome people that is Team Helix. If Paul Hindmarsh had been on this side of the pond (or if Sean Halley still worked here), he likely would've given the keynote; I just happened to be strong-armed into doing it because no one else was willing. Would much rather just sit in my office and design stuff with Dale and Brandon F.

And moderate internet forum 'geniuses'?

 

[Dez]

It was a waste of a lot of tea to be fair.

Good riddance

 

[Digital Igloo]

@Digital Igloo "Not enough people use Favorites". Seriously? That is like my #1 "favorite" feature on the Helix that makes it so easy to use. And not enough people use it?

If not enough people use hardware features, we tend to deprecate them in the next rev, especially if they're expensive. If not enough people use firmware features we were on the fence about, we might ditch them too. But if not enough people use firmware features we actually believe in, that means we either A) haven't marketed it well enough or B) haven't implemented it well enough, and the feature may need some extra attention. I'd suggest Favorites is in the latter boat—it's going to get better and easier in the future, beyond just nested folders.

Also, Pedal Edit Mode won't be in 1.0. But hopefully it'll be resurrected down the line with (already designed) improvements and a new name, given that Stadium doesn't have a pedal.

And moderate internet forum 'geniuses'?

Oh, I ain't moderatin' $#!‡!

 

[Lysander]

Also, Pedal Edit Mode won't be in 1.0. But hopefully it'll be resurrected down the line with (already designed) improvements and a new name.

 

[dk_ace]

@Digital Igloo will the focus thing be something you can easily change per snapshot? For example if I set the amp model up 4 different ways, can I select that it is in the upper right corner for snapshot 1, lower left corner for snap 2, etc?

D

 

[paisleywookiee]

Don't you mean the "Stompium" ...... you heard it here first :)

10/10, would buy a Stompium.

 

[bucephalus]

Oh, btw, I wonder whether the units will work without fans.

A stadium without fans is a dark, lonely place.

 

[Digital Igloo]

@Digital Igloo will the focus thing be something you can easily change per snapshot? For example if I set the amp model up 4 different ways, can I select that it is in the upper right corner for snapshot 1, lower left corner for snap 2, etc?

Focus view isn't tied to snapshots in any way, but if you push-turn any block parameters you want updated per snapshot, yes, you could press Snapshot 1 switch, tap Zone 1, press Snapshot 2, tap Zone 2, etc. Any parameters not set for snapshot recall remain static, just like in Helix.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

if not enough people use firmware features we actually believe in, that means we either A) haven't marketed it well enough or B) haven't implemented it well enough, and the feature may need some extra attention. I'd suggest Favorites is in the latter boat—it's going to get better and easier in the future

I'm a simple kinda man, I guess, because I can't really imagine it getting better or easier. It already made preset creation a breeze.

 

[dk_ace]

Focus view isn't tied to snapshots in any way, but if you push-turn any block parameters you want updated per snapshot, yes, you could press Snapshot 1 switch, tap Zone 1, press Snapshot 2, tap Zone 2, etc. Any parameters not set for snapshot recall remain static, just like in Helix.

Nice. That’s a much simpler and yet more powerful way to do what I was doing tying a bunch of parameters to a footswitch then changing the footswitch per snapshot.

Of course I’m one of those crazy users who would set up custom zones for just about everything.

Lot of cool ways to exploit that…

D