Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[laxu]

5" in a similar-sized chassis would likely mean no dedicated parameter knobs. You'd be using the touchscreen for everything or the whole tap parameter-turn encoder, tap parameter-turn encoder thing (which isn't as bad as it sounds). It certainly seems to work for products like Hotone Ampero II, Headrush Flex, and select Yamaha digital mixers; not sure if it'd work for us.

Maybe we should come up with a few designs and workshop 'em.

The 4" display on the Ampero 2 Stomp fits 3 encoders very comfortably underneath, and HX Stadium seems more cramped. At 5", I think you should be able to fit 4.

Ideal would be 5-6 knobs, but not sure how large the screen would need to be for that. 3 knobs is the wrong number, and those "tap param turn encoder" things suck (even though they are not as terrible as they sound).

In any case I think what people are expecting for a HX Stomp successor is something reasonably compact, probably Fractal VP4 -ish size at most?

 

[GTR37]

The 4" display on the Ampero 2 Stomp fits 3 encoders very comfortably underneath, and HX Stadium seems more cramped. At 5", I think you should be able to fit 4.

Ideal would be 5-6 knobs, but not sure how large the screen would need to be for that. 3 knobs is the wrong number, and those "tap param turn encoder" things suck (even though they are not as terrible as they sound).

In any case I think what people are expecting for a HX Stomp successor is something reasonably compact, probably Fractal VP4 -ish size at most?

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VP4 is a pretty good sweet spot IMO

 

[Digital Igloo]

The 4" display on the Ampero 2 Stomp fits 3 encoders very comfortably underneath, and HX Stadium seems more cramped. At 5", I think you should be able to fit 4.

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Here's HX Stomp with a 5" display (yellow is likely component footprint) tucked suuuuper tight into the back left corner, which wouldn't even allow for assembly bosses.

 

[yeky83]

Here's HX Stomp with a 5" display (yellow is likely component footprint) tucked suuuuper tight into the back left corner, which wouldn't even allow for assembly bosses.
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Flipping off backatchu laxuuuuu

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Here's HX Stomp with a 5" display (yellow is likely component footprint) tucked suuuuper tight into the back left corner, which wouldn't even allow for assembly bosses.
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Remove the stomp switches and replace them with parameter knobs. Et voilà - we have Helix Stadium Desktop.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Here's HX Stomp with a 5" display (yellow is likely component footprint) tucked suuuuper tight into the back left corner, which wouldn't even allow for assembly bosses.
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I don’t mind a little bigger device, just try not to make it as much of a tank as the FM3

 

[Tito83]

5" in a similar-sized chassis would likely mean no dedicated parameter knobs. You'd be using the touchscreen for everything or the whole tap parameter-turn encoder, tap parameter-turn encoder thing (which isn't as bad as it sounds). It certainly seems to work for products like Hotone Ampero II, Headrush Flex, and select Yamaha digital mixers; not sure if it'd work for us.

Maybe we should come up with a few designs and workshop 'em.

If the encoder is clickable, make it like go through the parameters, click you edit, click again back to scrolling parameters. Extra points if the encoder has steps.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

[...] the encoder has steps.

+1

There are few things in this world that give me more satisfaction than stepped encoders.

 

[Digital Igloo]

Remove the stomp switches and replace them with parameter knobs. Et voilà - we have Helix Stadium Desktop.

Our desktop solution would end up being something like Helix Stadium Native. Removing a few switches to make an all new form factor sounds like Taco Bell to the extreme.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Our desktop solution would end up being something like Helix Stadium Native. […]

As a huge fan of Helix Native, I say bring it on!

 

[GTR37]

Here's HX Stomp with a 5" display (yellow is likely component footprint) tucked suuuuper tight into the back left corner, which wouldn't even allow for assembly bosses.
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Should probably run this by Dale ?

 

[laxu]

 

[Gary_W]

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Tried (and failed to get Albert (our Siberian cat) into his carrier to take him for annual vaccinations earlier. Failed. Could do with an ‘un-hype’ knob.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I don’t mind a little bigger device, just try not to make it as much of a tank as the FM3

For me, 4 switches and 5-6 encoders plus a "suitable" (whatever that is) screen would be fine. Pretty much like laxu's mockup from a while back.

 

[Whizzinby]

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[GTR37]

For me, 4 switches and 5-6 encoders plus a "suitable" (whatever that is) screen would be fine. Pretty much like laxu's mockup from a while back.

I liked it too but your looking at FM3 size then which might be an issue for the stomp
Crowd

 

[paisleywookiee]

Welp, FM9T off to the new owner.

Stadium?

 

[EOengineer]

It’s totally not that I have a raging gear addiction. I can stop whenever I want.

I’m SOOOOOOOOO curious about Agoura though.

 

[Orvillain]

Here's HX Stomp with a 5" display (yellow is likely component footprint) tucked suuuuper tight into the back left corner, which wouldn't even allow for assembly bosses.
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hahahahahaha that's fuggin' hilarious!

 

[Orvillain]

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hahahahahahahaha!! That's also fuggin' hilarious!