Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Huh? What would those numbers show you? Moving the slider can change 32 or more different parameters, each with their own value ranges and special zone-based scaling (and eventually, user will be able to change settings—and therefore ranges and scaling—per zone), and you see those values right there in the inspector, where they're actually controlled. Sounds like you think Focus view is something it's not. [...]

I do understand what Focus view is. And as I clearly stated, I know my inner urge to be able to enter numbers is quirky. So that wasn't really meant as criticism. What I did criticize was the amp graphic in Focus view, which seems a little bit pointless and distracting to me.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Can’t say I’m a fan of the angled look, and even if you can’t adjust knobs with your finger I’d still rather see the gear graphics update with turning knobs. I just find it way more intuitive to look at than the sliders, all while a big beautiful graphic is staring at you.

Pretty sure L6 would have experimented on this stuff and landed on it for a reason though, particularly for how it is to operate rather than how it looks. But I’m not sure I dig it based on what i’ve seen, feels like a missed opportunity

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

I could watch lava flows all day long. There are few (if any) things in this world more fascinating than erupting volcanoes.

 

[Digital Igloo]

I do understand what Focus view is. And as I clearly stated, I know my inner urge to be able to enter numbers is quirky. So that wasn't really a criticism.

Okay, but again, exactly what number would you be entering? Moving your finger could adjust one parameter by +34.2%, another by -9.8%, another by +12.7%, another by -67.6%, all the way up to every parameter in the block. And it's not linear, because the X and Y axes are independent.

For numerical values, you can type in values for any individual parameter from its parameter panel: Tap the parameter, tap the keypad icon, type your value, tap Done.

 

[HotRats]

Why is there a picture of the model/amp but when they turn the knobs, the picture/settings/knobs on the model stays the same..why? Why not let the user see the settings on the model/amp/pedal. It`s just a `nice`picture ??

I guess that would be a waste of resources for a not so useful feature.

And also, are you sure focus view is changing only parameters on the front panel? I bet is not, at least not always.

 

[AlbertA]

 

[MIJLOVER]

I like the angled look

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

[...] Moving your finger could adjust one parameter by +34.2%, another by -9.8%, another by +12.7%, another by -67.6%, all the way up to every parameter in the block. And it's not linear, because the X and Y axes are independent. [...]

Haha, that really triggers my quirk. I want to enter whole numbers. Thinking "ah, well, that might be around 50%ish, but really could be anything between 47,77% and 52,43%..." drives me crazy.
In my ideal world, Focus view would let my enter: y:25%, x:50%
I know, I know...

 

[AlbertA]

Haha, that really triggers my quirk. I want to enter whole numbers. Thinking "ah, well, that might be around 50%ish, but really could be anything between 47,77% and 52,43%..." drives me crazy.
In my ideal world, Focus view would let my enter: y:25%, x:50%
I know, I know...

So in a real amp...what do you do? or On real pedals?

 

[ian_dissonance]

So in a real amp...what do you do? or On real pedals?

Only line them up with graphics.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

So in a real amp...what do you do? or On real pedals?

Amps and pedals that don't even have scales around the potentiometers are particularly bad. For me, that's actually a deal breaker.
And it's one of the many reasons I prefer digital modeling.

 

[AlbertA]

I like the angled look

Looks neat yeah!

Would it be cool that it was a full 3D Model - yes it would be, it would be an attention grabber for the first 15-30 minutes, then I would promptly forget about it. <like in a BWM, where you see that neat 3D model of the car, flashing lights are updated, door status, you think "That's pretty cool! and then forget about it for the next few years of ownership >

 

[AlbertA]

That's actually one of the reasons I prefer modeling.

I was imagining graph paper overlays

 

[Mooselake]

I know it's probably the player, but I like the punch I'm hearing out of these tones in the cleaner part of the spectrum.

 

[mikah912]

I like the angled look

As do I, man. I think it's brilliant because it creates negative space around the corners FOR Focus View to even work right.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

I was imagining graph paper overlays

Too vague. I used to replace the original knobs of my amps and pedals with Loknobs, which turn the potentiometers into stepped controls (stepped controls are sooo satisfying...). That was a good compromise.

 

[Digital Igloo]

Haha, that really triggers my quirk. I want to enter whole numbers. Thinking "ah, well, that might be around 50%ish, but really could be anything between 47,77% and 52,43%..." drives me crazy.
In my ideal world, Focus view would let my enter: y:25%, x:50%
I know, I know...

Sorry, I still don't get it. What would entering y=25%, x=50% on Focus view actually... y'know... do? They could be tied to dozens of parameters, all of which could easily change per zone based on proximity. It's very different from a traditional XY controller... which we happen to have as well, but on a totally different screen.

And you may be happy to know our XY Controller screen does display X and Y axis values both in percentage (0-100) and MIDI (0-127), specifically because it's a linear XY controller. It can be assigned to any number of parameters across different blocks: Press-hold the parameter, tap X (or Y) axis, done.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Sorry, I still don't get it. What would entering y=25%, x=50% on Focus view actually... y'know... do? [...]

Besides satisfying my quirk... absolutely nothing! And because I know that, I wasn't criticizing it but just asked if I'm right that it's not possible to do. Maybe it sounded like criticism because I asked the question in the same paragraph where I criticized the look of Focus view (because of other things).
Edit: I just read my post again, yeah, that definitely came across wrong. My fault.

[...] And you may be happy to know our XY Controller screen does display X and Y axis values both in percentage (0-100) and MIDI (0-127), specifically because it's a linear XY controller. It can be assigned to any number of parameters across different blocks: Press-hold the parameter, tap X (or Y) axis, done.

 

[Digital Igloo]

Besides satisfying my quirk... absolutely nothing! And because I know that, I wasn't criticizing it but just asked if I'm right that it's not possible to do.

Cool. Just trying to understand the request.

 

[Tritium3H]

What industry paradigm is that?

Oh my ftiggin’ word. Nevermind. Obviously no sense in offering a respectful criticism of an example of just one design approach taken (or not taken) by Line 6…despite making sure I qualified it by recognizing their genuine past and continued achievements in the industry.