JiveTurkey
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2dor
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heck...didn't even need to say his name 3 times damn it...
BenIfin
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Yep. I am :) However I must clearly be losing my obvious sarcasm abilities - I thought the language I used and the "winks" made my point clearly ie: if you're going to worship at the null test alter and live and die based on null tests results, you at least need to try an be consistent across brands ? - failed sarcasm ..... hence therefore why I also wrote Kemper must have done ok to catch up to QC V2 ...... pretty clear and obvious to my mind ... maybe I'll be more obvious and dunk such comments in a barrel of molasses in the future so they stick better :)
Oh ... and B.T.W .... I did also post another absolute ripper - I think (?) over there - along the lines of "Lets Play the guitar digital forums latest new gameshow "Why Null Tests Give Me The Horn" ... along the same clearly [sub-standard] sarcasm lines ..... I was going to link it here, but cant seem to find it
I chucked in a little gem - for those that don't know the comic genius of Derek and Clive [ Peter Cook and Dudley Moore ] "the Horn" was my ode to them ... as a good Englishman, I trust you too worship at the alter of Peter Cook and Dudley Moore / Derek and Clive. Its impossible to overstate how much of a Comic genius Peter Cook was.
In the context of that whole post - I %100 agree - see above. As it is being used by most people now for claiming X is better than Y compared to the real Amp .. it is complete bullshit
Thing is, for me, I didn't know or understand "why" until kind of recently ..... just being honest.
And its this forum that has educated me on this - which I appreciate.
Guess I'll have to sharpen up on the wording-intent of some of my posts
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MirrorProfiles, I listened on here, this board that is, on my phone and headphones. I can’t really tell a difference in your test files. I listened using my monitors that I mix and record through. I’ve really can’t tell a difference there either. I commented to that effect on your YouTube post also. In case you don’t see that comment, can you tell me what other test might do a better job to show us how good a capture is to it source other than my ears only. Some days I don’t have good hearing days other days I seem to, so I can’t be sure what I’m hearing from day today just to be completely honest.
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If there was a simple answer for distilling all the multitude of different facets of a guitar tone into a single number ranking, we’d all know about it by now. There isn’t such a thing, you ultimately have to isolate the different variables and test in different ways.
Level matched blind tests are really the ones that matter.
Sascha Franck
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Pretty much that.
Leo Gibson's "ranking" is quite in line with how people who are not into LUFS tests would rank capturing devices.
Doesn't make a LUFS test any more scientifically valid (because at least in the simplistic way LG does them, it defenitely isn't, for the very reasons described in this thread over and over again), but it might still provide some kinda "ballpark" idea.
And fwiw, apart from the LUFS issue, credit where credit is due: Gibson is one of the very few YTers actually comparing the dynamic properties of captures and the original amp. They could possibly be a bit more elaborated, but it's still something I find to be much more important than the last ounces of accuracy. Tells me much more about what I'm looking for than whatever hammered riffs, which is what most people are using these days. Picking intensity reaction, representation of various pickup switch positions and cleanup when dialing back your guitar volume are much more important to me than yet another full volume bridge pickup chugga chugga thing. Which is also why I really like Paul Hindmarsh's demos for the L6 stuff.
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