Kemper Profiler MK 2

[guitarsandcoffee]

Well everyone, I'm out on Kemper moving forward. On the forums, it was brought up that Kemper is using chips that are old and cannot be replaced with new because of the style (or something like that). Is it true, I don't know.

But me being a novice, I asked - if MK2 is using the same chips as MK1, why can't MK1 run 2.0 profiles at full resolution?

All of the conversation was deleted. And now one of the moderators is gas lighting that everyone has become hostile saying we are calling Kemper a liar. Which is funny, he's the same guy that banned me for calling him out on gaslighting. Also, maybe answer the question - why can't MK1 run 2.0 profiles at full resolution? You not telling us comes off as......lying.

Anyways, I've had enough. The UI, the locked block chain, Rig Manager still having crashing issues, the Player still having Bluetooth and Wi-Fi issues. I'm out. Onwards to QC or Helix.

 

[LP59]

That was low, even for Kemper. The Kemper moderator posted to accuse somebody of doing something, then banned them so they can't respond. It's like Kemper is intentionally trying to alienate their customers.

 

[Jarick]

If you go to the beginning of this thread, I was one of the few that was really defensive of Kemper and cut them a lot of slack. Bought a Player and updates and everything.

Their lack of progress, lack of transparency, and childish behavior of forum mods has completely soured me on the company and I sold off my Player.

 

[PorcinePicker]

In that I own a toaster, I'm a customer. (Haven't switched it on in years, but...)

At his point I view Kemper as staggering around from a self inflicted mortal wound, but not quite done bleeding out. It's a shame. They got some things very right in the early days.

 

[Sascha Franck]

(Haven't switched it on in years, but...)

You could always send it my way, I promise I'd find the on/off switch.

Seriously, I'm still considering a used Kemper Stage at one point in time (no need for a Mk2 in my case), simply because the featureset (hence the mix of size, functionality and sound) is pretty much exactly what I could do with in a whole lot of gigging situations, accuracy be damned.
For whatever weird reasons, the average 2nd hand price seems to be going up, though. They better release the Mk2 FW and it also better be great - so the Mk1 prices will go down again.

 

[crispsandwich]

Kemper seem to have REALLY dropped a bollock with Profiling 2.0. I hope we hear some news soon.

 

[OneEng]

Well everyone, I'm out on Kemper moving forward. On the forums, it was brought up that Kemper is using chips that are old and cannot be replaced with new because of the style (or something like that). Is it true, I don't know.

But me being a novice, I asked - if MK2 is using the same chips as MK1, why can't MK1 run 2.0 profiles at full resolution?

All of the conversation was deleted. And now one of the moderators is gas lighting that everyone has become hostile saying we are calling Kemper a liar. Which is funny, he's the same guy that banned me for calling him out on gaslighting. Also, maybe answer the question - why can't MK1 run 2.0 profiles at full resolution? You not telling us comes off as......lying.

Anyways, I've had enough. The UI, the locked block chain, Rig Manager still having crashing issues, the Player still having Bluetooth and Wi-Fi issues. I'm out. Onwards to QC or Helix.

It is a strange strategy to ban and berate people for stating their opinions.

FWIW, your speculation that MK2 is using the same DSP chip as MK1 is a fact. They did replace the applications processor (the one that runs the UI and runs a Linux OS), but that should have no effect at all on the DSP capabilities of MK1.

I also asked this question and put my reasoning together. I was banned (and I was a strong advocate of their product).

If you go to the beginning of this thread, I was one of the few that was really defensive of Kemper and cut them a lot of slack. Bought a Player and updates and everything.

Their lack of progress, lack of transparency, and childish behavior of forum mods has completely soured me on the company and I sold off my Player.

Me as well. Note: I am still sporting my MK1 rack rig, but it is likely that when I upgrade next year, it will be to a Stadium.... not a Kemper. I want to give the Stadium some time in the wild to mature before I jump ..... but still, if people like you and I are now ready to jump, Kemper has some serious problems.

Going around and berating and banning your flag bearers ..... hmm.

 

[LP59]

And now all the news from NAMM will eclipse Kemper's new profiling even further. If there's a way they could have handled this worse, I can't think what that would be.

 

[PorcinePicker]

For whatever weird reasons, the average 2nd hand price seems to be going up, though.

Not where I am. Local sale, mint condition Mk1 Profiler Rack, Remote, Mission Exp Pedal, and upgraded cables for everything: $650

My jaw dropped a little when I saw that listing.

 

[Chocol8]

And now all the news from NAMM will eclipse Kemper's new profiling even further. If there's a way they could have handled this worse, I can't think what that would be.

Charge full price in advance and then never deliver?

 

[northcountry]

Soon

 

[[Nathan]]

Soon

“Soon”

 

[LP59]

Expected by summer.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Expected by summer.

2026?

 

[BenIfin]

Soon

Nothing wrong with that short comparison clip that I can hear .. no "traditional" Kemper signature-tone / Kemper midrange hump / weird low end / weird pick attack ..... this bodes well ..... but its a very small "sample" size

 

[Tanax]

Ehh... I don't get that.

"Profiling 2.0 is here"
"Availability to be announced soon"

??? Make up your minds!

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Soon

this sounds roughly about what I remember the current kemper modelling to sound like. Not really the sort of tones it struggled too badly with. Still has controls like “definition” and god knows whatever else is lurking in the advanced tab. Funny how none of the more accurate approaches need these controls (nor see the benefit in adding them)

 

[Sascha Franck]

Funny how none of the more accurate approaches need these controls (nor see the benefit in adding them)

Regardless of whether they're not needed for maximum accuracy with other formats, there's a very, very obvious benefit in having them. No offense, but seriously, I have absolutely no idea how you can't see that. I mean, more tweaking options are good. And that's all there is about it.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Anyhow, it only took them around 8 months from the Mk2 hardware release to the first Mk2 profiling teaser. Tell me you suck at marketing without telling me you suck at marketing.

 

[Antipodes]

this sounds roughly about what I remember the current kemper modelling to sound like. Not really the sort of tones it struggled too badly with. Still has controls like “definition” and god knows whatever else is lurking in the advanced tab. Funny how none of the more accurate approaches need these controls (nor see the benefit in adding them)

Whether or not they need them, they are not even an option with the Black Box modelling approach. Machine learning makes a numerical model that is opaque even to creators and vendors of that model.