JiveTurkey
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paisleywookiee
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Unwatching this thread, because I've mustered all the fucks I could possibly muster, for this shit show of a release.
Chocol8
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I would not be shocked. If they tested it and it falls short of NAM and Tonex v2, and they don't think they can fix that with their architecture limitations, I could definitely see them throwing in the towel.
dean701
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Agreed. My original post was more of a dig at Neural but I don't agree with future product release announcements at all.
I know why they do it. "Wait don't buy the other product, we have something coming"
However, it just raises expectations. If Stadium Proxy stinks they'll wish they never told anyone it was on their roadmap
Chocol8
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People get mad either way. If they don't say anything, everyone who bought in the last 6 months (or longer for some people) will feel like they deserved a warning that the XXX they just bought was about to be outdated.
Dimiguitar
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But even if MKII profiling isn't as good as tonex V2 and NAM, it can still be a significant upgrade from MKI profiling.
If on the other hand Kemper chose to release nothing (even though their site could maybe list summer for years), that would be PR disaster for them, in my view.
texhex
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Waiting for some to make a Profile of a Mk.2 Kemper Profile using a Mk.1 Kemper and the Mk. 1 Profile sounds identical to the Mk. 2 Profile.
Good ole' ToneJunkie could start selling Mk.1 Profiles of Profiles make from the Mk.2 because God knows he has enough Kempers sitting around.
Good ole' ToneJunkie could start selling Mk.1 Profiles of Profiles make from the Mk.2 because God knows he has enough Kempers sitting around.
Guitar guy
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I don’t think that would work. I have two mk1 profilers, I once tried using the second one to create a profile of a profile running on the first one. The original profile was a great sounding tube amp high gain profile, so plenty of tube tone distortion.
The results were awful, the profile of a profile sounded really bad. I tried lots of tweaking the profiling process, but nothing worked.
My reason for trying it was that I had an EQ effect assigned to one of the post stack slots in the original profiler. I had hoped that by profiling that profile with a second Kemper I could “hard bake” the EQ into the new profile, freeing up that effects slot. No such luck.
Dimiguitar
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I tried this with making multiple profiles. First one of the original, then one of the copy, etc etc. Eventually ended up sounding like a Hollywood alien choking on cat hairballs
laxu
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I tried this with making multiple profiles. First one of the original, then one of the copy, etc etc. Eventually ended up sounding like a Hollywood alien choking on cat hairballs
Sounds like the "good" old days of cassettes. Friend of a friend bought an album on cassette, then by the time it got to you it was on a copy-of-a-copy-of-a-copy that had significantly degraded in audio quality.
Sounds like the "good" old days of cassettes. Friend of a friend bought an album on cassette, then by the time it got to you it was on a copy-of-a-copy-of-a-copy that had significantly degraded in audio quality.
And that’s probably why I’ve got several different tape emulations in my DAW - my old ears are regressing back to their childhood.
Ironic that record companies used to have the campaign that ‘home taping is going to kill live music’ and yet that same industry now makes it almost impossible for smaller artists to make a living due to their streaming models being crazy unfair.
My kids have grown up with instant access to any artist, no charge, as I subscribe to such things. They’ll never know the frustrated, excited terror where you had one chance that week to record a new song from the radio charts show *you’d only read about in the music press but hadn’t heard yet*. This was accomplished with a hand held microphone feeding a tape recorded sat next to a cheap mono radio. Persuading everyone in the house to just be quiet for 3 mins and 40 seconds whilst it was on. And then your mum shouted that tea was ready half way through.
Getting quite misty eyed here :)
Mongillo19
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Badass callout idea for a breakdown in today's music
"GARY_W.....THE TEA IS READY"
*Filthy Breakdown commences
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Badass callout idea for a breakdown in today's music
"GARY_W.....THE TEA IS READY"
*Filthy Breakdown commences
I think my favorite yet is Howard Jones in Killswitch- “Turn this place into a Kmart during a red tag sale” or “Make this place like Walmart on Black Friday!”
You have (unintentionally) made my nostalgia worse.
When you mentioned Howard Jones, I (Brit in his late 50’s) immediately went to wondering what love was and wanting to get to know you wellllllll. I loved all that stuff back in the day and had to go and look up your version who I’ve (sadly) never heard of!
I didn’t actually pick a guitar up at all until I was 26 I think. Keyboards doing an impression of a guitar? Now you’re talking :)
Fortunately I’ve continued enjoying music from all over the world and my taste has evolved. Still take pleasure in Talk Talk from back then and have other guilty secrets in the cupboard. Will go and find Killswitch and see what I think :)
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It’s certainly a very different Howard Jones!!!
Note- Howard was only on 2-3 Killswitch albums, The End Of Heartache being the best of them as that album was basically modern metal’s Black Album when it was released and everyone’s been ripping the production off since.
This Howard screams!
I'm in the "Prefer Howard to Jesse" camp.
Jarick
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Really disappointed with Kemper through this rollout. No news on the update well past their initial date and their user forum is a disaster with mods constantly warning posters and deleting everything “off topic”. I’m the eternal optimist looking on the bright side but it’s hard to see how they will have success after this mess.
Well, Kemper has put themselves in a bad spot. They can’t release it now. If they did, it would be buried by attention given to Stadium. Maybe next year sometime would work. This will go down in history as one of the most poorly managed releases ever. And yes, the Kemper forum is now officially beyond pathetic.
