Kemper Profiler MK 2

[Pack-Rat-Jerry]

I'll definitely have a chat with Thomas but I expect the news to be the same as last year. We'll see though, I'd love to be surprised!

According to the guitar summit website
Kemper has something there. I assume this is a booth

Kemper Profiler​

STAND 072 HALLE -1

 

[Pack-Rat-Jerry]

I'll definitely have a chat with Thomas but I expect the news to be the same as last year. We'll see though, I'd love to be surprised!

Same with Blu

BluGuitar​

STAND 223 HALLE 1

 

[Lysander]

It's kinda crazy, but we might actually get the Blu Amp X before Kemper's MKII firmware release.

 

[GTR37]

It's kinda crazy, but we might actually get the Blu Amp X before Kemper's MKII firmware release.

You will not

 

[GTR37]

I'll definitely have a chat with Thomas but I expect the news to be the same as last year. We'll see though, I'd love to be surprised!

I wonder if there will be other new products released
I know line 6 will be there with Stadium , I think also Sweetwater gear fest is next week too
Could be an interesting few weeks

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I wonder if there will be other new products released
I know line 6 will be there with Stadium , I think also Sweetwater gear fest is next week too
Could be an interesting few weeks

I’m not sure that Guitar Summit is much of a new release venue then rather a fun roll for end users.
I mean I’m 2 hours from there and you couldn’t pay me to attend.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Amusing to me that 4 months later, Kemper still has no new firmware. The MkII release is very "sad trombone."

It very much has new firmware. Sadly the new supposedly “improved” profiling hasn’t happened (yet).

 

[BenIfin]

Im guessing but I think its only a matter of a week or 2 from "release" Whether that's the same as available for download ..... who knows ?

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Im guessing but I think its only a matter of a week or 2 from "release" Whether that's the same as available for download ..... who knows ?

Well to be fair they do offer public betas.

 

[Frodebro]

A *lot* of this earlier Fractal stuff has ... how shall we say .... "not aged well" Thankfully Cliff and his team don't communicate like this anymore .... at least not in the last 2-3 years ... notwithstanding his embarrassing "gameboy" comment .... they [mostly] let their excellent products do the talking ... unfortunately, the same cant be said for a lot of the f*ck-knuckles over in the official Fractal forum

I think you’re taking what Cliff said completely out of context. He said that what they’re planning for the next generation will make every unit currently on the market seem like a GameBoy in comparison. That’s not embarrassing in the least, do recall that the Axe FX 3 clobbered everything else when it was released as well, and still has way more power than most units out there.

 

[BenIfin]

I think you’re taking what Cliff said completely out of context. He said that what they’re planning for the next generation will make every unit currently on the market seem like a GameBoy in comparison. That’s not embarrassing in the least, do recall that the Axe FX 3 clobbered everything else when it was released as well, and still has way more power than most units out there.

I.m.h.o .... nope. He knew exactly what he was saying .... there was huge discussion ... both pro / con on that thread re: the Stadium .... and it was his way of "settling the acolytes" / minimizing "potential crossover sales"

Its far from a new thing .... just another sort of F.U.D.

It was a piss-poor comment - that's my view - clearly we disagree - its all good.

 

[Orvillain]

I.m.h.o .... nope. He knew exactly what he was saying .... there was huge discussion ... both pro / con on that thread re: the Stadium .... and it was his way of "settling the acolytes" / minimizing "potential crossover sales"

Its far from a new thing .... just another sort of F.U.D.

It was a piss-poor comment - that's my view - clearly we disagree - its all good.

i.H.m.O.p

Pancakes beyotch!

 

[Dimiguitar]

I think you’re taking what Cliff said completely out of context. He said that what they’re planning for the next generation will make every unit currently on the market seem like a GameBoy in comparison. That’s not embarrassing in the least, do recall that the Axe FX 3 clobbered everything else when it was released as well, and still has way more power than most units out there.

But it does seem like taking a slight swipe at competitors, hence the "gameboy" phrasing. I doubt a new axe fx would actually make current units look as weak as a Gameboy, comparatively speaking, but I'm not an expert of such tech.

That said, I don't think this is nearly as bad as some other things, like Cliff confidently claiming things about Kemper he never seemed to substantiate. Such talk does get fanboys riled up, or people who are insecure about their fractal units when new stuff comes out, perceiving these as a kind of existential threat, but I don't know how credible it is.

And as a side note, personally I am also not a fan of how fractal runs their forum when it comes to competitors, like closing up threads about other units. It feels like there's this faint climate of fear or insecurity. Generally speaking, I prefer how Kemper have traditionally handled this, even though it seems to change recently -- they'd allow threads about other units and quite free discussion within them.

 

[Frodebro]

I.m.h.o .... nope. He knew exactly what he was saying .... there was huge discussion ... both pro / con on that thread re: the Stadium .... and it was his way of "settling the acolytes" / minimizing "potential crossover sales"

Its far from a new thing .... just another sort of F.U.D.

It was a piss-poor comment - that's my view - clearly we disagree - its all good.

If you go through life seeking drama, you’ll always be able to find it regardless of whether it is real or not.

The actual discussion in which his comment was snipped from included talk about Fractal falling behind, so in the correct context Cliff was simply letting people know that they are not going to do that. The first part of his statement (which is always ignored) was “we have not been resting on our laurels.” It wasn’t so much a shot at the competition so much as a reassurance to his own customer base.

 

[BenIfin]

If you go through life seeking drama, you’ll always be able to find it regardless of whether it is real or not.

I got enough real drama so no need for any more :)

Just gonna have to agree to disagree.

 

[JiveTurkey]

He should definitely have said that other competitors products were better than his own. Totally.

 

[Orvillain]

"Hey guys! Buy my products, they're properly shit!"

Said no businessman ever.

 

[Frodebro]

And as a side note, personally I am also not a fan of how fractal runs their forum when it comes to competitors, like closing up threads about other units. It feels like there's this faint climate of fear or insecurity. Generally speaking, I prefer how Kemper have traditionally handled this, even though it seems to change recently -- they'd allow threads about other units and quite free discussion within them.

There was a thread on the Stadium there that went 30 pages, it was only closed because people ran out of relevant things to discuss and the thread went off the rails.

 

[Dimiguitar]

There was a thread on the Stadium there that went 30 pages, it was only closed because people ran out of relevant things to discuss and the thread went off the rails.

And tonex thread closed arguably because people were talking about technical support kind of stuff, it can be said. I'm sure there's some reasons like that, so I'm less confident now about my impression.

That said, I still feel they can get insecure about their units in a way I haven't seen from Kemper in the past. Just my impression based on participating in both forums -- even though Kemper seems to have changed quite a bit these days, maybe due to lack of developments and the negative internet response to MKII.

 

[Frodebro]

And tonex thread closed arguably because people were talking about technical support kind of stuff, it can be said. I'm sure there's some reasons like that, so I'm less confident now about my impression.

That said, I still feel they can get insecure about their units in a way I haven't seen from Kemper in the past. Just my impression based on participating in both forums -- even though Kemper seems to have changed quite a bit these days, maybe due to lack of developments and the negative internet response to MKII.

I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect a manufacturer funded forum to openly allow discussion of competing products either way, that’s what forums like this are for. The manufacturers forums are primarily for product support.