Kemper Profiler MK 2

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More drama at the Kemper forum this week. They are threatening to ban paying customers from their support forum for the grievous offense of posting messages that Kemper judges to be tangential to the topic of a thread. SMH.
 
More drama at the Kemper forum this week. They are threatening to ban paying customers from their support forum for the grievous offense of posting messages that Kemper judges to be tangential to the topic of a thread. SMH.
I think they should focus more on new features. Then maybe this micro management wouldn't be as necessary.
 
There's an interesting video on Kemper's FB page today about the new profiling. A couple of things of interest.

* It was shown to Thomas Dill for the first time today. That means it has not reached any beta testers or profile makers yet, so it's probably not close to release.

* It requires a new audio driver. That might mean the profiling operation runs at a higher sample rate than the current profiling.
 
More drama at the Kemper forum this week. They are threatening to ban paying customers from their support forum for the grievous offense of posting messages that Kemper judges to be tangential to the topic of a thread. SMH.
Not surprised. Not even a little bit. Sad, though.

When I picked up my toaster back in 2019, I thought very highly of the company. Now I'm kinda embarrassed to own one.
 
There's an interesting video on Kemper's FB page today about the new profiling. A couple of things of interest.

* It was shown to Thomas Dill for the first time today. That means it has not reached any beta testers or profile makers yet, so it's probably not close to release.

* It requires a new audio driver. That might mean the profiling operation runs at a higher sample rate than the current profiling.
I watched it. They didnt explain anything at all lol. They showed theres a new tab for 2.0 and then rambled for 2 minutes about nothing and then it ended. I saw it on Instagram though, unless the FB one was longer
 
In the latest FB video Kemper posted it says there will soon be a full video of the fb segment on YouTube. I suppose they may explain more there and maybe show this in action? You would imagine.

From the short FB video, he shows that not much has changed in the editor, but you can initiate either classic or the updated profiling from there.

Ps: Ah, you guys already mentioned this. It's the same as Instagram video.
 
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From my perspective, they just don't seem to be self aware enough to realize how they come off.
That’s the thing - I still think the Kemper has a lot going for it. Their ability to communicate what they have / what they’re doing just comes across like an unrehearsed school play. They’ve just gone to the guitar show where Line 6 are doing (in my opinion) a very slick job of teasing the Stadium. To go to a show in their own country when their own website still says the new profiling is ‘expected in the Summer’ despite it being Autumn? It’s just so unnecessarily silly and avoidable when (product wise) they still have something good to offer to those who want it.
 
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And as a side note, personally I am also not a fan of how fractal runs their forum when it comes to competitors, like closing up threads about other units. It feels like there's this faint climate of fear or insecurity. Generally speaking, I prefer how Kemper have traditionally handled this, even though it seems to change recently -- they'd allow threads about other units and quite free discussion within them.

From a forum owner’s perspective, there’s a LOT happening behind the scenes in the way of preventing forum fights and BS you just don’t want to/have to deal with. I had the same opinion as you did before we started TGF, now I’m surprised they even let the threads exist as long as they do.
 
I watched it. They didnt explain anything at all lol. They showed theres a new tab for 2.0 and then rambled for 2 minutes about nothing and then it ended. I saw it on Instagram though, unless the FB one was longer
lol I agree , it seemed like they were not super prepared
Christoph kind of hum and said umm yeah umm
Then he passed it off to the other guy ( who looked like a deer in the headlights) to explain the new 2.0 profiling 😂
 
Not surprised. Not even a little bit. Sad, though.

When I picked up my toaster back in 2019, I thought very highly of the company. Now I'm kinda embarrassed to own one.

I’ve had a power rack since around 2015, and I still love it when combined with the Kemper Kab. But I will openly admit that the atmosphere on the Kemper forum was always just a bit strange to me, and I initially wrote it off as being a cultural thing as Kemper is a German company, but over time I realized that it was more of a “we know better than you, so embrace our product or shut the fuck up.”

And this had more than a little to do with my moving over to Fractal. The Fractal forum does have its quirks (and a handful of REALLY enthusiastic owners that wave their freak flag at every opportunity), but overall the vibe there is welcoming and everybody is willing to step up to help a guy out who is struggling. And if Cliff steps in and calls you a chucklehead, it’s not because you’re criticizing his products. It’s because you’re acting like a buffoon and earned the scolding.
 
From a forum owner’s perspective, there’s a LOT happening behind the scenes in the way of preventing forum fights and BS you just don’t want to/have to deal with. I had the same opinion as you did before we started TGF, now I’m surprised they even let the threads exist as long as they do.
There certainly must be things I don't understand, not being in the position of running a forum.

That said, I would be more inclined to agree with your view if I hadn't witnessed certain behaviors from the powers at be, behaviors that to me illustrate a high level of insecurity.

It's arguable that doesn't have to do with thread closures though, at least in recent times.
 
And if Cliff steps in and calls you a chucklehead, it’s not because you’re criticizing his products. It’s because you’re acting like a buffoon and earned the scolding.
When I first joined the forum, I made a short comment about fractal and Kemper, praising the former for their approach to improvements.

To the best of my memory, their boss chipped me asked me if I'm "looking for a fight". He seemed to misunderstand what I was saying, thinking I prefer the Kemper/somehow bad mouth fractal.

I don't think fractal users are automatically buffoons if Cliff scolds them, or deserving of it. It's possible he's wrong about something and the user right (not a radical claim imo). Even if that wouldn't count for my case, I've seen several others for whom I think it's true.
 
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So, this spring, Kemper announces the Mk2 and the new profiling. One week later, Line6 announces the Stadium.

Fast forward to September 26th at Guitar Summit and Kemper "demonstrates" the new profiling by standing in front of a computer screen and pointing at a button in Rig Manager. Meanwhile just around the corner at the Line6 booth, people are actually playing guitars through the Stadium.

I'm pulling for them, but this is not looking good for Kemper.
 
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