Kemper Profiler MK 2

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I’ve been in IT for over 25 years. Engineers who may be really smart in one laser focused area, tend to think they’re fucking brilliant with everything. Doctors and lawyers are similar.

Only a complete fucking dumb bellend would take what I said here as “doctors, lawyers, and engineers are all stupid.” But hey, nothing amazes me anymore.
 
I gotta admit this thread and the ekit thread are great sources of daily entertainment, keep it up lads. I’ll do my part and throw some wood on the fire.

Nothing about the mk2 seems to have done anything for the coolness of buying/owning a kemper. I’m in a bunch of discords, YouTuber chats, forums and have my ear to the ground with YouTube content… pretty much all crickets for the kemper besides the news about mk2 when it initially launched. I can’t say the same thing for any other unit.

They’re obviously functional units being used around the world but as an A tier priced unit, the market for people willingly buying one over a quad cortex, fractal, helix/stadium would be low.

It’s a shame they didn’t lean into neural networks and come up with some hybrid solution (maybe that’s on the cards down the line). But more of the same is a pretty big yikes. Even if the accuracy is a bit better the high level takeaway for consumers is “it’s the same kemper but like, a bit better accuracy”.

Again I know the kemper units are fine, I’m really talking about them losing public perception against the competition. When someone wants to buy a new brand name digital unit, the kemper seems like a tough sell compared to the rest. Sales of used units have gone down which makes second hand gear affordable, but that doesn’t help them get new RRP money in through the door
 
Only a complete fucking dumb bellend would take what I said here as “doctors, lawyers, and engineers are all stupid.” But hey, nothing amazes me anymore.
Gold medal in mental gymnastics to get there

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It’s a shame they didn’t lean into neural networks and come up with some hybrid solution (maybe that’s on the cards down the line).

Even more than Fractal, I think Kemper is a one-man shop, and I doubt Christoph has expertise in that area. Add to that their weird hardware platform that will never change, and I doubt we'll see much innovation coming from Kemper. Even liquid profiles was more of an accidental side-effect of their existing technology rather than a push into a new area.

Kemper is pretty damn good, but it is what it is and doesn't have much headroom for enhancements. That's what makes their announcement of new profiling so curious.
 
I gotta admit this thread and the ekit thread are great sources of daily entertainment, keep it up lads. I’ll do my part and throw some wood on the fire.

Nothing about the mk2 seems to have done anything for the coolness of buying/owning a kemper. I’m in a bunch of discords, YouTuber chats, forums and have my ear to the ground with YouTube content… pretty much all crickets for the kemper besides the news about mk2 when it initially launched. I can’t say the same thing for any other unit.

They’re obviously functional units being used around the world but as an A tier priced unit, the market for people willingly buying one over a quad cortex, fractal, helix/stadium would be low.

It’s a shame they didn’t lean into neural networks and come up with some hybrid solution (maybe that’s on the cards down the line). But more of the same is a pretty big yikes. Even if the accuracy is a bit better the high level takeaway for consumers is “it’s the same kemper but like, a bit better accuracy”.

Again I know the kemper units are fine, I’m really talking about them losing public perception against the competition. When someone wants to buy a new brand name digital unit, the kemper seems like a tough sell compared to the rest. Sales of used units have gone down which makes second hand gear affordable, but that doesn’t help them get new RRP money in through the door

Even more than Fractal, I think Kemper is a one-man shop, and I doubt Christoph has expertise in that area. Add to that their weird hardware platform that will never change, and I doubt we'll see much innovation coming from Kemper. Even liquid profiles was more of an accidental side-effect of their existing technology rather than a push into a new area.

Kemper is pretty damn good, but it is what it is and doesn't have much headroom for enhancements. That's what makes their announcement of new profiling so curious.

As they say, with the MK2 new Profiling Process being so loudly touted on pre-release over 2 months ago, the silence is deafening. Leads me to think they are either going to actually deliver something class leading -or- a slightly better than MK1 Profiling.
 
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I gotta admit this thread and the ekit thread are great sources of daily entertainment, keep it up lads. I’ll do my part and throw some wood on the fire.

Nothing about the mk2 seems to have done anything for the coolness of buying/owning a kemper. I’m in a bunch of discords, YouTuber chats, forums and have my ear to the ground with YouTube content… pretty much all crickets for the kemper besides the news about mk2 when it initially launched. I can’t say the same thing for any other unit.

They’re obviously functional units being used around the world but as an A tier priced unit, the market for people willingly buying one over a quad cortex, fractal, helix/stadium would be low.

It’s a shame they didn’t lean into neural networks and come up with some hybrid solution (maybe that’s on the cards down the line). But more of the same is a pretty big yikes. Even if the accuracy is a bit better the high level takeaway for consumers is “it’s the same kemper but like, a bit better accuracy”.

Again I know the kemper units are fine, I’m really talking about them losing public perception against the competition. When someone wants to buy a new brand name digital unit, the kemper seems like a tough sell compared to the rest. Sales of used units have gone down which makes second hand gear affordable, but that doesn’t help them get new RRP money in through the door
Yea. Look at the comments on their MKII announcement video. Not great.

 
None of these companies are one-man shops. Small yes, but Christoph nor Cliff codes every single line in their units.

I'm pretty sure Cliff is the only person writing the crown jewel signal processing code for the Axe-FX, especially the amp modeling. The other team members are responsible for either more peripheral parts of the system like drivers, user interface, and editors, or porting his code to the other units. I believe Kemper has a similar arrangement, but since the units are more similar than at Fractal, there's less porting to be done. Also, the specialized language used at Kemper must make it difficult to find anyone who can write code for their system anyway.

So, yes, compared to Line6 or NDSP or Fender, I believe Fractal and Kemper are one-man shops, meaning the key signal processing code is done primarily by one person. And, Kemper is even more reliant on a single person than Fractal.

Anyway, semantics aside, my point is I believe Kemper is heavily reliant on a single developer, which must make it hard to expand their offering to incorporate new technology like neural nets. The relatively minor enhancements we've seen from Kemper over the course of 14 years should be ample proof of that :giggle:.
 
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More than anything I sure hope everyone got their dopamine hit from others confirming their beliefs.

Sorry I almost forgot to make fun of OneEng because he said he was an engineer once. Shame on me.
 
More than anything I sure hope everyone got their dopamine hit from others confirming their beliefs.

Sorry I almost forgot to make fun of OneEng because he said he was an engineer once. Shame on me.

Not just any engineer. This is a Marks & Spencer’s(tm) high-dopamine, ketamine-rush ‘engineer’. All golden-syrup hack-fraud fuck-a-thon vibes, with zero schematics and even less music. Armed with enough positively charged neuronic hamblasters to stun a rhino, this so-called electrical engineer promises to make you gush with the force of Zeus, but can’t even prove they own a multimeter.

But don’t be fooled by the mysterious nature of this weapon-melted man. This is a bargain-bin, ketamine-sodden Marks & Spencer’s cosplay-engineer. This clown is a walking short-circuit a god-tier gush of pure bullshit wrapped in a lab coat he bought on Wish.
 
Not just any engineer. This is a Marks & Spencer’s(tm) high-dopamine, ketamine-rush ‘engineer’. All golden-syrup hack-fraud fuck-a-thon vibes, with zero schematics and even less music. Armed with enough positively charged neuronic hamblasters to stun a rhino, this so-called electrical engineer promises to make you gush with the force of Zeus, but can’t even prove they own a multimeter.

But don’t be fooled by the mysterious nature of this weapon-melted man. This is a bargain-bin, ketamine-sodden Marks & Spencer’s cosplay-engineer. This clown is a walking short-circuit a god-tier gush of pure bullshit wrapped in a lab coat he bought on Wish.

So you're saying you do respect their Engineering knowledge and skills ;)
 
One of the patents I hold is in color vision systems for vehicle manufacturing. Do you work with OpenCV, or just put together off the shelf solutions using what's already out there? It's a pretty cool area in engineering. Cudo's.
Both. I package lots of turnkey systems using Keyence, Cognex, Omron. Ive pursued and obtained multiple patents but found they are pretty useless to be honest. Unless you have the money to reinforce them with an iron first or it’s very revolutionary and can’t have a copy cat with a slight difference (and brings in a lot of revenue) you just waste money on lawyers. They’re more useful for telling people “I have patents” than actually having patents.
 
I think for the sake of Forum credibility, importance and influence, I should add I am a qualified - but practicingly lapsed - Economics Major.

I am also a very lapsed Catholic.

I'll leave it there ;)
 
I think for the sake of Forum credibility, importance and influence, I should add I am a qualified - but practicingly lapsed - Economics Major.

I am also a very lapsed Catholic.

I'll leave it there ;)

Should we start putting our degrees in our signature? How about our whole resume? Or is just proclaiming our profession once a page enough?
 
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