Kemper Profiler MK 2

Imagine someone idiot testing an OD 100 with headphones
Uhhh you know that the vast majority of session players (including the best of the best playing on the biggest albums) record most of their parts with cab's mic'd up in a different room and track through headphones right?
 
A close friend of mine who is pretty damn critical of profiling keeps the Kemper largely for the convenience of having the built in power amp, gapless switching (ok now fractal has something similar), the solid build, performance mode, other features that lend nicely to live use... I think they are great units for that purpose.

Yeah, I love performance mode. Between that, gapless switching, morphing, the separation of the amp from the effects, and physical buttons always available giving instant access to each block I found it so nice for live work.

It’s not perfect, but I have very fond memories of my time using it
 
Uhhh you know that the vast majority of session players (including the best of the best playing on the biggest albums) record most of their parts with cab's mic'd up in a different room and track through headphones right?

I don’t know why, when studio control rooms have the best studio monitors money can buy to listen through. (Which is really what the pros do)
 
I don’t know why, when studio control rooms have the best studio monitors money can buy to listen through. (Which is really what the pros do)
Probably to mentally lock in. Can’t speak for anyone else but I’ll always track the tightest and cleanest when I’m using headphones. I basically only use headphones for tracking these days. General playing and everything else over monitors.
 
YMMV but I can’t imagine sitting in a control room tracking guitar with headphones when there’s incredible monitors there right in front of you. How do you interact with the producer, band mates etc?

Why isolate yourself and have a shitty sound when it can sound amazing?

Never seen anyone else track with headphones in the control room either.
 
I don’t know why, when studio control rooms have the best studio monitors money can buy to listen through. (Which is really what the pros do)
a lot of times track through headphones and then monitor the full mix back through the monitors.

Either way the argument still stands that you're 'not an idiot' if you don't listen to an amp only through a cab. If anything most 'pros' aren't monitoring directly from a cab in many situations either recording or live...if anything the 'amp in the room' sound is the more amateur setup...but that's going to ruffle some feathers haha.
 
YMMV but I can’t imagine sitting in a control room tracking guitar with headphones when there’s incredible monitors there right in front of you. How do you interact with the producer, band mates etc?

Why isolate yourself and have a shitty sound when it can sound amazing?

Never seen anyone else track with headphones in the control room either.
Pretty common to see guys like Bukovac, Tim Pierce, Justin Ostrander, Rob McNelly, etc tracking through headphones.
 
YMMV but I can’t imagine sitting in a control room tracking guitar with headphones when there’s incredible monitors there right in front of you. How do you interact with the producer, band mates etc?
I dunno what answer you’re expecting here haha, “imagine it” cause it happens 🤣
Not hard to take headphones off/on to talk and then put em on to lay down some tracking then off again. In the context of punk, metal, hardcore and everything in between you want a pretty locked in rhythm section and the headphones have always helped me play as tight as possible. I see plenty of others doing the same.
 
Why are guitarists so obsessed with the labels “pro” and “amateur” and trying to put everyone into those boxes?
They aren't. It's usually a bunch of guys on forums trying to put people down if they dont use the same setup as them.

I was pointing out that the common notion that it's 'amateur' unless you're listing to the cab directly isn't really the case in most situations.
 
YMMV but I can’t imagine sitting in a control room tracking guitar with headphones when there’s incredible monitors there right in front of you. How do you interact with the producer, band mates etc?

Why isolate yourself and have a shitty sound when it can sound amazing?

Never seen anyone else track with headphones in the control room either.

I track all the time with headphones on. Goes back to high school years. Plenty of people do. Shitty sound? 🤣 buy better headphones.
 
Uhhh you know that the vast majority of session players (including the best of the best playing on the biggest albums) record most of their parts with cab's mic'd up in a different room and track through headphones right?
Through monitors not headphones and yes .
 
They aren't. It's usually a bunch of guys on forums trying to put people down if they dont use the same setup as them.

I was pointing out that the common notion that it's 'amateur' unless you're listing to the cab directly isn't really the case in most situations.

I see it all the time in guitar forums. It’s been that way forever. Guitarists seem to have an obsession with the classification of “pro”
 
YMMV but I can’t imagine sitting in a control room tracking guitar with headphones when there’s incredible monitors there right in front of you. How do you interact with the producer, band mates etc?

Why isolate yourself and have a shitty sound when it can sound amazing?

Never seen anyone else track with headphones in the control room either.

If a band is tracking live they're going to be in the same room to get visual cues from each other and you can't put a drummer in the control room. Acoustic instruments or singers would be in separate rooms to avoid bleed.

Also each musician will want their own headphone mix so they can hear exactly what they need to perform their best.



That said the goal of these headphones isn't BEST TOAN EVAR it's to hear themselves and the rest of the band clearly so they get the best performance possible.

There's certainly times when overdubs would get tracked in the control room because it's way easier to interact with the producer.

 
I see it all the time in guitar forums. It’s been that way forever. Guitarists seem to have an obsession with the classification of “pro”
I only use it to describe players that are on tour at least once or twice a year and don’t do anything else. Usually with endorsements or back up household name acts .
 
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