nicolasrivera
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Well, not for the 15 YO units, for the brand new ones that have triple the DSP power.
Kemper Profiler MK 2
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ian_dissonance
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The new ones don’t have triple the DSP, though.
You could profile a nam profile....
Yes, I agree the implementation of the Profiler is not a direct mapping (and the representation is far more compact).
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7-10 underlying models tone-matched to sound like a reference amp, is not decent capture technology in 2025. TBH. It was kinda clever in 2011.
JiveTurkey
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The tones in that video don't sound good. You can get away with it through real guitar speakers because it imparts the speaker on top of the profiles really favorably imo.
hunter
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less clicks because too many youtubers and sinking interest in their ever repeating content. Like the newspapers, they need to make up negative loud stories to attract clicks. Pretty desperate in my opinion and nothing I will engage with.
I have the Kemper SLO30 he did recently, and that came out great, but a Kemper will never be as versatile at matching a wide range of amps as NAM or QC are. There are just some amps like this where the Kemper can't capture it.
Chocol8
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A profile of a NAM capture would have all the faults that a profile of an amp has. They would need to be able to play a completely different software architecture on the same hardware.
Chocol8
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The ones with triple the DSP power have not been announced or even rumored yet. Unless they are planning a MKIII to follow shortly behind MKII, the hardware is not going to run native NAM. Period.
Dimiguitar
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I've seen a couple of posts from people thinking a "true successor" will follow up soon, but it feels like wishful thinking.
nicolasrivera
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Ohh thats so sad to know.... double?
Chocol8
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Yeah, I am not crediting wishful thinking as even a rumor. There is no reasonable expectation of another hardware generation in the next 24 months.
nicolasrivera
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I really thought that, after soooo many years the new ones would have so much more powerful DSP units in it. Seems like more bad noews for potential new buyers down the road.
Kemper reps have already said the sounds are the exact same. If they had a reason to say it was better they would.
The player already has the MK2 signal path and sounds the same, nobody said a peep about it sounding different.
Would be pretty idiotic to make their biggest advantage, the vast back catalog of profiles in MK1 format sound completely different.
They are using a very specific chip which would involve a complete re-write of everything. They aren’t going to do it (they should) it’s either arrogance or lack of resources. Also they reason the plugin has never come out.
Thinking and it happening are not the same. They had 15 years to upgrade, released a MK2 that’s basically the same, and now all of a sudden there’s going to be major upgrades? Those people should lay off the crack pipe
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nicolasrivera
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Well. R.I.P Kemper
It’s not RIP (yet) as they have a devoted user base, but the decisions made on the MK2 release are pretty head scratching. It sure seems as a typical we know better than the customer type scenario.
I do actually quite enjoy the Kemper workflow, effects, and simplicity. Funny enough, for me a Kemper stage with a NAM player amp block would probably be my top choice. I’m using an FM9 and Kemper player right now but will likely try out a new stadium once they are available. Nothing I’ve tried sounds as good as hyper accuracy NAM captures though
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