Kemper Profiler MK 2

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Wow, so that’s how they were made. I used to have those as a kid in the little viewer and look at them all the time. I didn’t realize that’s the way they were made. Geez, that’s pretty cool.
 
So did I understand this right? The people who have campers and stages and stuff right now what will be able to update their units to get all these features or do you have to buy a whole new hardware unit to get them? I’m kind of confused.
 
I am recovering from ulnar release surgery. The ring and pinky fingers on my left hand were very numb at the tips and it made it tough to feel the strings. So I can’t really play now and I’m embarrassed to put up anything while I’m playing, but, I was able to play three or four easy chords without too much pain. So, I recorded my four input JMP using a DI input. So the point was exactly the same for both recordings.

Now, I don’t know if I’m doing this right or not, but I enlarge the screen by the lengthening it so I can see the start of the sample point of the first note. I lined them up, then phase inverted the second recording.

I have no clue how to do a null test or get LUFS readings. But they don’t sound exactly the same. There’s some high-end on one that isn’t available in the other and there’s some low end and low mids on the first one that isn’t available in the second. Now that’s a real freaking amp. This thing also has a legendary tones Lynch mod in it. I have no clue if that makes any difference or not, but it is very gainy and very freaking loud. No mics were moved. The guitar cord wasn’t even moved, and still, they don’t sound the same.

If I can’t make the same amp null out with the exact same signal, I don’t know how any profiler or any modeler will ever be able to null out against a real amp either

By the way, I do gig and I do stay at home and play a lot as well. Back in mid April we had an outdoor gig here at the lake. I used Tonex with a drive pedal in front and a source audio collider at the back end. I ran into a DI box and direct to PA. It sounded fabulous. And I could also see the display very bright sunlight. Now make of that what you will that’s just an aside
 
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All MK 1 units will be able to play back the new Profiles, in the resolution of the classic Profiles"

I find it interesting that the Mk1 can still play the "new" profile format. Makes me wonder what the new profiles truly are that they can be reverted to a lower quality?
I kind of suspected it was just something like a 30 band eq vs a 100 band eq. Might be some more subtleties and layers going on but that lines up with this forward/backwards compatibility
 
From a Kemper Employee:

"All MK 2 units will maintain full compatibility with previously created content.

All MK 1 units will be able to play back the new Profiles, in the resolution of the classic Profiles"

I find it interesting that the Mk1 can still play the "new" profile format. Makes me wonder what the new profiles truly are that they can be reverted to a lower quality?
interesting so they are going to have a classic resolution and High resolution mode .perhaps oversampling to cut aliasing for one
 
interesting so they are going to have a classic resolution and High resolution mode .perhaps oversampling to cut aliasing for one
Maybe? Is oversampling something that can be removed? Is oversampling something that can be done to captures?
 
Maybe? Is oversampling something that can be removed?
I swear I remember Kemper stating they do pretty aggressive oversampling from the beginning.

My understanding is the IR portion in the Kemper is broken into to parts. With the low end shorted significantly and inthink made-up with some kind of EQ adjustment.

My guess, there is a second process on the MK2 unit that is done by process on ones PC in Rig Manager. I imagine this also includes an AI component.
 
I swear I remember Kemper stating they do pretty aggressive oversampling from the beginning.
Definitely not. They had to release a firmware update to handle aliasing. They've not been oversampling - at least not in the right areas - since the beginning. That's just DSP 101.
 
Definitely not. They had to release a firmware update to handle aliasing. They've not been oversampling - at least not in the right areas - since the beginning. That's just DSP 101.
I don't know where the original post was as it was a long time ago but:

 
I think now that this thread has reached point of the "w.t.a.f singularity" I should point out that my opinions and thoughts are always right.

Please feel free to disagree with me ... but of course you will be wrong ;)
 
So did I understand this right? The people who have campers and stages and stuff right now what will be able to update their units to get all these features or do you have to buy a whole new hardware unit to get them? I’m kind of confused.

No, they are releasing new hardware with more processing power for all Kemper devices except the Player which already had the processing power. The Mk2 units will have faster boot time and overall speed, WiFi for wireless editing, and some additional "fixed effects" blocks which are stripped down effects on top of the regular effect blocks.

They announced a new profiling tech that should come out this summer. Mk2 units can run these new profiles which should have more accuracy and fidelity. Mk1 units can run the profiles as well but seems like it will be more like old profiles. The Player will also be able to make captures if hooked up to a computer.
 
I'm still messing around with the Player, I'm really digging the sounds of profiles with Leon Todd's TV Mix IR. It cleans up the mid-focused sound of the Michael Britt profiles a lot.

I'll also say Rig Manager has been working flawlessly with the Player. With my old toasters, RM was a complete buggy disaster that was laggy and caused the hardware to lock up. Everything is pretty dang quick now, so I'd expect the Mk2 units to be a huge improvement here.
 
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