Kemper Profiler MK 2

[quadgear]

I am equally convinced that some of my favorite profiles (Morgan AC 20, Mesa Mark IIc, etc) will still be my favorite profiles regardless of any new tech introduced.

Which Mesa Mark IIc profile is that?

 

[quadgear]

Sadly, I expect that MK1 users (like me) will not be seeing any more free updates moving forward .

I doubt that very much. It's possible that some new features may not make their way to the MK I, but I'd be very surprised if this happened. Maybe in five to ten years, but who knows.

This is not like a v2 where it will take a lot of effort to maintain separate firmware for the next gen.

Just a guess.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

Have you heard if the improved NAM functionality is legit for Anagram?

Sorry, no idea on that one but it's nice to see that they are being pro-active and fixing things.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I don’t care about your nulled or scientific way of measuring latency or whatever.

But when it comes to latency, that's all there is that is important.

 

[norminal]

I dunno man... the NAM Player by Dimehead is incredible so far in my opinion, combine it with any HX Stomp or FAS VP4 or whatever, and it's even awesomer. I get it's not got everything like more mature multi-fx units on the market, but it's not really aiming to be that either.

Also, Anagram looks awesome too. Does alot more, but it's not in stock currently so I've not tried it yet.

All viable solutions, but would require additional AD/DA conversion to sit between the pre and post effects of say a Helix or Fractal.

 

[Orvillain]

2020 btw

 

[Enchilada Jones]

There is a flip side to the argument/assertion that those who say ‘it’s close enough to not matter’ are the ones who would be ‘screaming case closed it’s as accurate as possible pope Leo just tested it!’

That is those who make that hypothetical hypocrisy indictment are the same ones who would audition a new guitarist, love the way he sounds and brag to their peers about the great sounding player that just joined the band….and then when they saw that great sounding player breaking down his rig after a great sounding show, where he was pulling a Kemper Toaster out of the otherwise empty Marshall head shell that was hiding the Kemper on top of his cab… revealing the great sounding player was using a Kemper profiler the whole time…

Well ‘those’ same people would suddenly swear their new guitarist player was terrible…sounds like shit…very inauthentic tonez that require he be fired immediately.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

I've never been to a gig and thought anything bad about someone who achieved great tones with a rig I wouldn't choose myself, more power to them. It's nothing to do with this conversation though, really.

The point here is, if someone says ''WE HAVE THE MOST BESTEST NEW TECHNOLOGY'', someone unbiased should review that.
I look forward to know the results of a test by whomever does that.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

I've never been to a gig and thought anything bad about someone who achieved great tones with a rig I wouldn't choose myself, more power to them. It's nothing to do with this conversation though, really.

The point here is, if someone says ''WE HAVE THE MOST BESTEST NEW TECHNOLOGY'', someone unbiased should review that.
I look forward to know the results of a test by whomever does that.

That’s fair, if you claim absolute then it’s going to be tested.

But I’m not a guy who makes profiles to sell them and lives or dies by the charts and graphs. That is a self imposed burden those creators choose to bear.

For me, regardless of the lab results, I’m going to fire up my Player when the MkII mojo is delivered and if it truly sounds better than my MkI Toaster running the same profiles then I’m going to be saying well done Kemper! And the test results won’t carry a bit of weight one way or the other. I also probably won’t buy a MkII Toaster since Kemper snuck the power of MkII into my Player for free!

 

[BenIfin]

The point here is, if someone says ''WE HAVE THE MOST BESTEST NEW TECHNOLOGY'', someone unbiased should review that.

And that's the issue for me. If, and its a bloody big if in my mind, C.K has found a way to get the "best" and this is tested and proven by a few trustworthy people, I will be first in line to grab either a fully loaded Player or a MK2 Stage.

But as I say, in my mind so far, its a bloody big if

 

[Deadpan]

 

[norminal]

The point here is, if someone says ''WE HAVE THE MOST BESTEST NEW TECHNOLOGY'', someone unbiased should review that.
I look forward to know the results of a test by whomever does that.

A.I. is the future of audio technology memes.

 

[BenIfin]

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And see that's the thing - show this pic to 1000 rando's in the street and ask them if they like or dislike the Mona Lisa, almost all wont know that this isn't it the actual ML.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

IF after testing it was proven actually THE BEST, and IF they also offered a computer workflow for profiling and loading through a plugin in a daw - instead of only on their hardware - I'd be very interested in spending a bit of money on said software, maybe even get the hardware.

But until then.... I dunno about that.

 

[Deadpan]

And see that's the thing - show this pic to 1000 rando's in the street and ask them if they like or dislike the Mona Lisa, almost all wont know that this isn't it the actual ML.

And I asked AI to recreate the ML.

 

[riffy]

I think they sound good but similar has been on ToneNET for awhile with my JEL100.

The JEL has a bit more character in the gain structure but similar.

The Michael Nielsen video shows problems with the Kemper too. And its not like Michael doesn’t know what he’s doing.

Like Mike, I tried to capture a Mesa quad 290 combo. I couldn’t get it done. It sounded absolutely nothing like the preamp and amp into a cab. And when I say nothing like it, I mean, nothing like it!

I dug the Kemper though. When it profiled well, I thought it profiled very well for my tastes. But then I got a hold of another hated object. The Tonex pedal. After a couple of weeks, the Kemper was sold. The Tonex captures, to my ears were just so much better.

I have played the new Ampero with captures. It is a friend of mines and he has not tried to capture anything, and I have not had the chance to try yet so I can’t say anything about it, other than what is in it and what he has downloaded has sounded very well.

Quad Cortex, Nano Cortex or Dimehead, I have not played yet. I haven’t even seen one in person yet, so I have no clue other than YouTube videos. I don’t particularly care for the sounds. I’ve heard with the quad or nano cortex in the videos. A Dimehead however, sounds very good.

I hope, that Kempers’s new profiling algorithms, are machine based learning. If that is the case, maybe they will be better than everyone else to this point. Then others will be on the stick to catch up yet again. I am hopeful, but I am also very wary of that bold claim of being the best ever.

 

[texhex]

"It doesn't matter."
"The audience will never know."
“No one can tell in a mix anyway.”
“If it sounds good, it is good.”
“Nobody cares but guitar players.”
“It’s 95% there—good enough.”
“You’re just being too picky.”
“You’re supposed to tweak it after profiling.”
“It’s not meant to be exact, just close.”
“That amp had bad tubes or a weird mic position anyway.”
“Try profiling it again—maybe something went wrong.”
“It’s close enough for live shows.”
“Why lug around 80 lbs of gear for a 5% difference?”
“I sold all my amps and don’t miss them.”
“You can’t beat the convenience.”
“Tone is in the fingers.”
“Music is about emotion, not fidelity.”
“Chasing tone is a waste of time.”
“You're just romanticizing analog gear.”
“I A/B’d them and couldn’t tell the difference.”
“You’re imagining the difference.”
“Placebo effect—Kemper wins blind tests.”
“You must not know how to dial it in.”


Apologia for dogshit.

All that and you forgot about Refining the Profile (which I’m guessing is exactly the same process in the Mk. 2 ).

 

[Funk Soul Brother]

Yes it is. Kemper sounds like a used tampon.

I can hear a difference. Nearly 100% of the time. The fact you and others can't doesn't reflect poorly on me. Rather the opposite.