IK Multimedia TONEX

[Mikael Dez]

I'm 4 months late to the party but the editor looks like it's a godsend - I plan on using this into the return of my amp to play with different preamp tones, and it's nice to know I can connect it up and edit away on my Mac to play around.

 

[Deadpan]

While this isn't the tone everyone wants, I am really liking the updated capture quality.

 

[Mikael Dez]

While this isn't the tone everyone wants, I am really liking the updated capture quality.

Www.soundcloud.com/dead-pan/lrs-mshggh-hi-di-v2-05-tonex

I might get that pack next paycheck

 

[MirrorProfiles]

True, and that is pretty low, but there is also a line out on those devices. There are limited circumstances where you actually need the reamp out because most amps or pedals will handle a hotter low impedance output just fine.

Yeah exactly. I mean, it's more if someone is spending money on dedicated reamp gear. I think there are smarter places to spend money - a Lehle P-split isn't expensive, or even a DI in reverse with an attenuator can be fine.

ToneX has never once been marketed as something to capture plugins. So complaining about it is a bit silly, IMO.

Exactly. And it captures plugins just fine, just as the user has to use NAM a certain way, they will have to adjust their approach to work with ToneX. NAM can reamp a plugin offline, thats the only advantage I can see for its approach. But you'll likely spend that 3 minutes organising the file, uploading, filling out metadata, waiting for it to train, and then downloading anyway. And both are painfully easy.

 

[Byrdman]

Just throwing this out there, but is anyone interested in starting another thread for posting their captures?

I just got my ToneX Pedal and so far love it, but even though the UI is better now, I'm still working out the kinks with just playing captures from Tonenet.

Once I get up to speed on how to use it, I would love to learn how to make some captures of my DSL100H and SC20H and would be willing to share with anyone that wants them.

 

[Mikael Dez]

Just throwing this out there, but is anyone interested in starting another thread for posting their captures?

I just got my ToneX Pedal and so far love it, but even though the UI is better now, I'm still working out the kinks with just playing captures from Tonenet.

Once I get up to speed on how to use it, I would love to learn how to make some captures of my DSL100H and SC20H and would be willing to share with anyone that wants them.

That would be cool so they don't get lost in aliasing debates

 

[Deadpan]

I might get that pack next paycheck

I had this amp setup and spent a morning making 3 capture with the V1 software. I recieved the V2 while at lunch and was thinking I probably wasted half a day.

It does give an interesting perspective to be able to compare the v1 directly to the v2.

 

[Mikael Dez]

I had this amp setup and spent a morning making 3 capture with the V1 software. I recieved the V2 while at lunch and was thinking I probably wasted half a day.

It does give an interesting perspective to be able to compare the v1 directly to the v2.

The Nameless is a bucket list amp for me that I'm sure will cost me an arm and a leg to get one day lol - definitely appreciate a solid capture pack for it. I'll mess with the free V1 capture in the meantime

 

[Dimiguitar]

I've captured several plugins and mostly NAM captures with tonex, as I didn't have access to the amps anymore. Worked a treat. But it was confusing to me in the beginning.

 

[Sascha Franck]

ToneX has never once been marketed as something to capture plugins. So complaining about it is a bit silly, IMO.

It could be pretty easy, though.

 

[Mikael Dez]

It could be pretty easy, though.

Could bees don’t make honey

 

[Sascha Franck]

Quoting myself:

Another question: How are captures dealing with latency introduced by your routing? I have a decent idea about how I could capture both hard and software, even a combination of the two, but that'd likely involve using the HX Stomp (or GT-1000, but the Stomp has the better FX loop, should I want to capture hardware). With the Tone3000 method I'd just trim all latency from the recorded file, so how is the Tonex app taking care of it?

So, any takers? How is that handled?

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Quoting myself:



So, any takers? How is that handled?

It’s too boring for me to investigate because it’s never posed any kind of issue, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the software automatically aligns the reamp track with the training signal. NAM certainly has that built in so it’s possible for it to do that.

Are you having latency issues?

 

[Sascha Franck]

Are you having latency issues?

Not yet, but in case latency wouldn't be taken care of, I wouldn't bother trying what I have in mind as a capturing setup (which will introduce plenty of latency).
Automatic correction would be fine - but that could only work if the app would detect the first signal, perhaps a difficult task once you're capturing a noisy thing.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Firefox clearly underestimating the TGF crew.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

Not yet, but in case latency wouldn't be taken care of, I wouldn't bother trying what I have in mind as a capturing setup (which will introduce plenty of latency).
Automatic correction would be fine - but that could only work if the app would detect the first signal, perhaps a difficult task once you're capturing a noisy thing.

It’s probably quite easy to reamp in tonex, find the resulting wav file, edit the start and end points, and then train later. But I doubt you’d run into problems unless there’s a crazy amount of latency.

 

[Sascha Franck]

But I doubt you’d run into problems unless there’s a crazy amount of latency.

Rough calculation says it'll be around 20ms for the capturing setup. Obviously nothing anyone wanted to deal with in the resulting file. I might give it a testride later on.

 

[Chocol8]

Why would latency be an issue? Since the software knows what's in the training file, it should be able to do any time alignment behind the scenes.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Why would latency be an issue? Since the software knows what's in the training file, it should be able to do any time alignment behind the scenes.

Well, depending on the captured amp, the file might be altered quite dramatically, so the first transient isn't as clear anymore - and that'd be the only thing it could use as an anchor for autotrimming. Capturing a noisy amp might add to the issue.

Fwiw, I have been running into this issue before, when shooting some IRs using Logic's Impulse Response Utility quite some years back. The resulting IRs had some silence in the beginning ocassionally (I was capturing some kinda wild stuff which involved running the signal through some DAW processing). Didn't happen again when I did a similar thing not that long ago, but I'm still curious.

Possibly best to just give it a try.

 

[Deadpan]

I would guess the ticks at the begging are for frequency response and alignment.