Help me out here: great out front, horrible on the monitors

[EOengineer]

@GuitarBilly74 are you using the FX loop on the Friedman?

The manual says you can use that fx send to go out to a power amp (or fx return of a back line amp) since it’s routed before the impulse response is applied.

I agree with @JiveTurkey and others who’ve suggested the fender FR amps as maybe being the best of both worlds while being small, light, and very portable.

 

[la szum]

I'd like to experiment someday with putting an actual Guitar Speaker in a Powered Monitor
and eliminating the Tweeter in the process. Just out of my own curiousity. It's not rocket
science... and should, in theory, remove some of the more problematic issues when combining
distorted guitar tones and monitors/wedges/"FRFR".

 

[la szum]

"Back in my day..."
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Haha! The fucked up thing is all of those "old" ways were not all wrong, and not all of the
"new" ways are better, or actual improvements on the "old" ways.

Just don't try telling that to the "kids."

 

[GuitarBilly74]

@GuitarBilly74 are you using the FX loop on the Friedman?

The manual says you can use that fx send to go out to a power amp (or fx return of a back line amp) since it’s routed before the impulse response is applied.

I have a delay in the loop but I have a splitter after it for this exact purpose.
And it sounds phenomenal when I run the fx loop signal into a power amp and cab. I A/B'd this setup against my Dirty Shirley and ended up selling the DS because it was dead on accurate.

But if I'm doing that its still bringing an amp and cab.
I could look into getting a portable power amp like the SD power stage and use it with a small 1x12. It kind of defeats the practical aspect of a DI rig though.

I'm thinking the Fender/EVH might be a simpler option.

 

[TSJMajesty]

Haha! The fucked up thing is all of those "old" ways were not all wrong, and not all of the
"new" ways are better, or actual improvements on the "old" ways.

Just don't try telling that to the "kids."

Nothing like having a live experience for ourselves onstage at the same time as projecting one out to the audience!

 

[GuitarBilly74]

"Back in my day..."
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That's pretty much me

I'm old school to the core. To me there is nothing better than having my amp, leveling it with the drums and not needing wedges. That's how I've been doing things since the late 80s when I started playing out and it was never an "issue" with any venue until recently. And I swear there were more people going to local shows back then too, but I digress...

But yeah, I am trying to get used to this new way of doing things. And honestly I am very happy with the IR-D tone as far the the FOH goes. Just need to figure out monitoring.

But also, we have some West Coast shows this summer that I will need to fly to and it will be much easier to take the IR-D rig. Although, I could take my Bluguitar Amp 1 and just ask for backline cabs...

 

[TSJMajesty]

But yeah, I am trying to get used to this new way of doing things.

I embrace most all technology, to a point. Intermittent wipers are a useful feature, but I don't need lane-avoidance gizmos dulling my driving skills.

Same with gear. We have tech available to us, providing endless tonal options we could've only dreamed about 30 years ago, but that doesn't mean I want to get bogged down with the choices, and minutia of how they operate, to the detriment of why I picked up the guitar in the first place, which was to play!

(That's not pointed at you, or your monitoring issues, btw. But it is pointed at some. Lol)

 

[riffy]

Yeah the Laney LFR is fantastic.

I am going to look into this one!

 

[GuitarBilly74]

Yeah the Laney LFR is fantastic.

I'm a huge Laney fan. I'm going to look into this one.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I'm a huge Laney fan. I'm going to look into this one.

They seem to be backordered everywhere, but there are a bunch on reverb.com.

 

[Byrdman]

I'm not that knowledgeable about what can be done, just started gigging with our band and have not had that issue (yet), but is there some sort of Eq or small powered board w/ an Eq you can put in front of the wedges to make them sound better? If not, maybe someone should make one?