Honestly, a lot of that sounds like old Sweep Echo effect from the M series era on a parallel track paired up with a reverb like Ganymede or Heliosphere feeding into maybe one more delay - all at high mixes parallel to the dry signal.
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Honestly, a lot of that sounds like old Sweep Echo effect from the M series era on a parallel track paired up with a reverb like Ganymede or Heliosphere feeding into maybe one more delay - all at high mixes parallel to the dry signal.
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I tried some very similar combinations, IMO they don't come close. And they don't offer enough editing flexibility, either.
Just as I say to the people who want different reverbs - be specific about how existing blocks and block combinations don't come close. Say exactly which additional parameters you want exposed.
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That would be too much to list. And as said, it's not even anything specific in particular. I could have fun with many variations of them. But as you've asked, some examples:
- Envelopes, LFOs and input level to control some parameters (but these should be a general thing allowing you to control pretty much anything).
- Dedicated controls over resonance and cutoff.
- Freely adjustable amount of taps and time, level, pan, tone control per each tap. Ideally add filtering, pitching and reverse per tap.
- Diffusion parameters to smear delays (Deelay does that quite nicely and it's just as easy to access as it gets).
- An envelope shaper (straight after the input), would allow you to nicely get rid of some of the pesky attacks.
- Possibly further effects on either each tap and/or nested in the feedback loop and/or the overall delay (ideally switchable pre/post). Some dirt in the feedback loop of a delay already goes a long way. So do filters, modulation and what not.
- Multiple delay engines (more than two that is) under one hood, including selectable crossfeedback options between all of them.
It won't be required to have all of these in one delay, but I also wouldn't mind. Yes, that'd be way, way too complexed for the current lineup as the editing UI isn't suitable. But this is defenitely one area where a touchscreen (and a new editor as well, obviously) comes in incredibly handy, as it could allow folks to quickly access a plethora of additional parameters without mad page flipping (or scrolling). Or rather, tabbed/swipe page flipping could become much easier. I'd actually prefer clickable tabs on top/bottom as you'd just click on them instead of swiping through multiple pages.
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He for sure loves his Helix!
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Did any of you Mac folks already update to Tahoe? Does HX Edit work properly? And HX Native?
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Started the update just now to test, will let you know Soon™
CorrosiveMatter
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HXEdit is fine, and blah I forget I am out of activations for Native almost and I don't want to burn it on my non main Mac sorry.
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Yeah, I typically never update to the initial big version numbers, either. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone, either.
However, my last OS-updates all went pretty smooth (for the smaller inbetween updates that's usually not an issue anyway as they're merely "oops, we messed that up initially" and security updates), but this one seems to be a bigger fish and not exactly well received, especially due to all that liquid glass nonsense that Microsoft had already messed up back in the days. Looks as if Apple is trying their best to follow suit...
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Agreed. 6-12 months is a good leeway for most bugs to be fixed. All the 26 versions this year seem like a pile of crap atm with major issues.
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For work I have a sort of Spare MacMini I use to test the new stuff.
For the Mac I need to use to do things I would never install until at least the first patch at a mimimum and if there is no feature I NEED your 6-12 months rule is great for stability.
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So my stomp went psycho mid set last night. And of course turning evwrything on today everything’s fine so I can’t repeat the issue but it’s fairly concerning
Kind of hard to explain and wrap my head around evwrything but anyway intro of a song has a 100% wer reverse delay. I turn it offf and the effect is still on, I change to a different preset that doesn’t even have that block and it’s still happening. I reboot and the effect is gone, but now I’ve lost footswitch a great deal of control. The tuner programmed button on my midi controller will bring up the tiner for a split second then it goes away. The fx loop block on the stomp is also now blinking at hyper speed (not red like it’s clipping, something different). This is happening on all my normal presets and no number of reboots make it stop. Midi controller also just not working right and even when I disconnect it evwrything is still on the Fritz and signal cutting in and out. I was finally able to get past this because for whatever reason on a different set of presets similar to what my go tos are the blinking stopped at least but I still have no midi capabilities. I ignored the stomp the rest of the set which was annoying to do but I’m kind of at a loss
Kind of hard to explain and wrap my head around evwrything but anyway intro of a song has a 100% wer reverse delay. I turn it offf and the effect is still on, I change to a different preset that doesn’t even have that block and it’s still happening. I reboot and the effect is gone, but now I’ve lost footswitch a great deal of control. The tuner programmed button on my midi controller will bring up the tiner for a split second then it goes away. The fx loop block on the stomp is also now blinking at hyper speed (not red like it’s clipping, something different). This is happening on all my normal presets and no number of reboots make it stop. Midi controller also just not working right and even when I disconnect it evwrything is still on the Fritz and signal cutting in and out. I was finally able to get past this because for whatever reason on a different set of presets similar to what my go tos are the blinking stopped at least but I still have no midi capabilities. I ignored the stomp the rest of the set which was annoying to do but I’m kind of at a loss
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Sounds like a factory reset is in order, but yeah that sounds really bad, hopefully just a one off.
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Yeah, unfortunately between a couple different units this is the third time I’ve had a significant failure mid gig with digital multi fx. Id never get rid of the stomp as it’s just an incredible piece of gear all around, but I’m almost getting to the point where I’m thinking about eliminating it from my live board. Which sucks because aside from the flexibility of having all those options on tap, there’s a number of FX on there that have actually become critical to several of our songs and stand alone replacements could prove tricky.
I know as far as gig reliability the sentiment is usually the opposite but my anecdotal experiences are starting to add up, anything that requires a boot up is beginning to make me feel leery
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Maybe shitty power at the venue?
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