Groundhog Audio OnePedal Kickstarter Next Week

[Chocol8]

Wedding bands especially. People want their favourite songs to sound like they do on the record.

Hire a DJ. It’s cheaper and they sound just like the record.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Hire a DJ. It’s cheaper and they sound just like the record.

Absolutely but lots of people still like a band at their wedding though. A mate of mine is in a pretty successful one who's always fully booked. It's good money but completely soul destroying. He genuinely doesn't play for fun anymore but can't give up the extra income.

 

[paisleywookiee]

This definitely isn't for me but some of my mates will love tech like this.

Let them know that, should they find themselves in the United States, they should most definitely stay off of my lawn.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Hire a DJ. It’s cheaper and they sound just like the record.

$14k, bro

 

[Chocol8]

$14k, bro

For a wedding DJ? I thought DJs only made that kind of money at proms and golf courses! Seriously, I have a friend who is a DJ and he is DEFINITELY not making anywhere close to that. He makes enough to supplement his full time job, and his competitors he is friendly with are working full time jobs as well.

 

[ian_dissonance]

For a wedding DJ? I thought DJs only made that kind of money at proms and golf courses! Seriously, I have a friend who is a DJ and he is DEFINITELY not making anywhere close to that. He makes enough to supplement his full time job, and his competitors he is friendly with are working full time jobs as well.

My friend who does it makes about $3k for a wedding.

 

[JiveTurkey]

It's super easy to get pulled into the cover band $ trap. Ask me how I know! I like it as it affords me the ability to buy as much gear as I could want for the most part and it lets me play music with friends. There are loftier ambitions you could have as an original musician for sure and I have tried going those routes at various points in my life. I never got to a place where that made any sort of dent in the outside world and I was fine with that, too.

The biggest negative trap a cover band has ime is the other side of that "making $" coin. Yes you can buy gear or do all sorts of meaningful stuff with that supplemental money but it also means that everyone in your circle expects anything you do to have an associated financial windfall and that isn't the case all the time.

 

[mbenigni]

So I'm supposed to let the guy who chose this sweater choose my guitar tones?

I don't think so.

 

[JiveTurkey]

So I'm supposed to let the guy who chose this sweater choose my guitar tones?

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I don't think so.

I didn't even notice that

 

[mbenigni]

I didn't even notice that

He could have had, like, 10 scarves, easy.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

It's super easy to get pulled into the cover band $ trap. Ask me how I know! I like it as it affords me the ability to buy as much gear as I could want for the most part and it lets me play music with friends. There are loftier ambitions you could have as an original musician for sure and I have tried going those routes at various points in my life. I never got to a place where that made any sort of dent in the outside world and I was fine with that, too.

The biggest negative trap a cover band has ime is the other side of that "making $" coin. Yes you can buy gear or do all sorts of meaningful stuff with that supplemental money but it also means that everyone in your circle expects anything you do to have an associated financial windfall and that isn't the case all the time.

John's tried to get me into his wedding/functions band loads of times. The lure of extra cash has been very tempting but he forgets I'm also the one he bitches to about how annoying wedding parties are. Then he's surprised when I say no. On the other hand he has bought some really really nice gear off the back of it though.

 

[mbenigni]

Bias just dropped basically the same thing in software form. My expectations are low but I’ll give it a whirl.

It's interesting that the pedal mfr is called "Groundhog Audio", because I could swear I messed around with a similar software package around a year or two ago. Might even have been from Positive Grid. I think that iteration was just looking at a database of song presets pre-curated by actual humans, though.

(Now that I think about it, I remember thinking it was surprisingly decent-sounding, for a phone app.)

 

[Jarick]

I get it but isn't it sort of taking all the fun out of guitar playing? It's like buying a new car and there's no wheel since it's a self driving one.. I mean sure if you hate driving (tone sculpting in this case).

Honestly I feel the same way. I think it could be really useful for people who never want to touch gear and just get through a gig. But if you were a cover band jumping from stem tone matches song to song it's going to sound like ass live. And you're never going to develop your own sound.

 

[Whizzinby]

I don’t doubt they could ballpark it, which might be fun in a novelty sort of way, but I do remain skeptical how good the tones would actually be.

A lot of this could be accomplished without the algorithm, by companies just including more expansive artist presets in their current gen modelers. Then you at least get a useful preset and can see the models and signal chain used to make the tones.

 

[Jarick]

My friend who does it makes about $3k for a wedding.

Good lord! At my wedding we just rented a pair of PA speakers and put on an iPod. But neither of us wanted to dance so it was just background music for a party.

 

[metropolis_4]

It’s hard for me to imagine a guitar product I’d have less interest in than this

 

[mbenigni]

Honestly I feel the same way. I think it could be really useful for people who never want to touch gear and just get through a gig. But if you were a cover band jumping from stem tone matches song to song it's going to sound like ass live. And you're never going to develop your own sound.

Despite Groundhog Audio's pitch, I just can't imagine a lot of (any) players dropping this thing on a stage and trying to get through a cover band gig straight out of the box. I see it more as a tool people will use at home, to learn a wide variety of material quickly. And for that application, it could be fun and practical.

That sweater, though...

 

[MirrorProfiles]

this is sort of like having an AI powered toaster or kettle to me. There are certain tasks I'm happy to dump onto AI to do but not everything is well suited to it. Some fairly mundane things are even enjoyable or more efficient to just do yourself, humans can be quite capable at certain tasks.

 

[[Nathan]]

It's interesting that the pedal mfr is called "Groundhog Audio", because I could swear I messed around with a similar software package around a year or two ago. Might even have been from Positive Grid. I think that iteration was just looking at a database of song presets pre-curated by actual humans, though.

(Now that I think about it, I remember thinking it was surprisingly decent-sounding, for a phone app.)

I think they did it on their speaker or phone app first yeah.
You can ask ChatGPT to ballpark fractal and helix presets already, guessing they just pipe that into the app

 

[Whizzinby]

Life moves fast. These guys had a good run for 12 hours before Bias X.