Fractal Talk

[SeeD]

But it`s not just the Amps, it`s all the things, This is why it gets a bit hairy with presets. I hope it stops, so I get me a AM4

 

[blandified]

Axe-Fx III Firmware 32.00 Public Beta

https://www.fractalaudio.com/downloads/firmware-presets/axe-fx-3/32p0/axefxiii_dsp_rel_32p01_beta1.zip Axe-Fx III Firmware Release Notes 32.00 Improved power tube grid modeling in Amp block. Improved frequency response accuracy for amp models. Improved diffusion in Delay block. The dry...

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I am glad to see Fractal has been pushing to improve the pitch tracking/shifting. It has definitely improved over the past year, I wouldn't say it is as good as HX yet but it has been improved so much. HX virtual capo also uses way more DSP if that matters.

Also good to see adustments made to the input/gate block. I was just on the Fractal forums a few weeks back and we were saying that the Fractal noise gate kills some of the "feel".... I can only guess but I feel like these updates were a direct result of our feedback. Good to know Fractal listens!

 

[JiveTurkey]

I am glad to see Fractal has been pushing to improve the pitch tracking/shifting. It has definitely improved over the past year, I wouldn't say it is as good as HX yet but it has been improved so much. HX virtual capo also uses way more DSP if that matters.

Also good to see adustments made to the input/gate block. I was just on the Fractal forums a few weeks back and we were saying that the Fractal noise gate kills some of the "feel".... I can only guess but I feel like these updates were a direct result of our feedback. Good to know Fractal listens!

Virtual Capo is better than the Helix pitch shifting. In my experience with my guitars at least? Poly Capo in the Stadium still had a good bit of warble.

 

[AZG]

Do Line6 brake presets?
Do NDSP brake prestes?

Who other do this?

Few years, then maybe update the Amp code, but still make new cool things along the way, adding to the overall divices. Sounds bad? I would say that sounds good for a PRO unit

I can’t think of a single time in the last 5-6 years with my FM3 that an update has broken a preset. At most I noticed minor changes and maybe did a little BMT tweak. But I also regularly make minor BMT changes even if the software hasn’t changed in months.

 

[dean701]

But it`s not just the Amps, it`s all the things, This is why it gets a bit hairy with presets. I hope it stops, so I get me a AM4

My am4 sounds great and it's staying on 1.02

 

[SeeD]

Are you talking about presets that actually will not load anymore? That would be a broken preset. Or a preset that bricks the unit. But sounding different isn’t a broken preset.

No, Im talking about presets that need tweaking ( not sounding the same, or Volum up or down, CPU up or down, MIX of efx`s changing, BMT) the list is long, that is the problem for me and others

 

[Frodebro]

But it`s not just the Amps, it`s all the things, This is why it gets a bit hairy with presets. I hope it stops, so I get me a AM4

Like JT suggested, you might be more comfortable with a BOSS product because it will never change on you. Personally, I don’t automatically jump on every new firmware update on my Fractal units (Axe 3 & both FM units). If there is something there that really interests me I’ll update, but most of the time I lag way behind on that stuff. As a result, my presets don’t change.

 

[blandified]

Virtual Capo is better than the Helix pitch shifting. Poly Capo in the Stadium still had a good bit of warble.

Hmm I will revisit the virtual capo when I get home. I realized that I have only been using the dual pitch for octave up/down lately.

When I had a tonex pedalboard with HX effects, there was a pitch shifting/virtual capo setting that was the best I've ever used. Never heard it warble once, even when playing short intervals such as a m2, M2, m3, M3 etc.. Of course, that setting ate up like 60% of my DSP or whatever it was lol.

I will try out the virtual capo again, it's been awhile.

 

[DrewJD82]

Maybe it's the amps I stick to, but I have never really had to redo a preset after a fw change, the changes have been pretty minimal/nuanced to me.

Exactly, like maybe 1-2dB’s in a couple areas at most. I haven’t gone as far as changing an IR or adding/removing blocks since Cygnus was introduced, where I removed all the PEQ and MBC blocks from my chains.

When I hear about things being “broken” my assumption is that a poor IR choice was made in the beginning and there’s likely a bunch of EQ/mangling of the amp going on to force it to sound like something the IR should be doing, in turn making oddities come to the surface when the small changes are implemented.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Hmm I will revisit the virtual capo when I get home. I realized that I have only been using the dual pitch for octave up/down lately.

When I had a tonex pedalboard with HX effects, there was a pitch shifting/virtual capo setting that was the best I've ever used. Never heard it warble once, even when playing short intervals such as a m2, M2, m3, M3 etc.. Of course, that setting ate up like 60% of my DSP or whatever it was lol.

I will try out the virtual capo again, it's been awhile.

I added the caveat of "my guitars" to my post. It seems like pitch shifting is very guitar and guitar setup dependent from what you see across posts on both. The Poly Pitch feels good but the FAS just sounded a bit more stable to me?

 

[Frodebro]

Oh, and FWIW when I say ‘bitching,’ I’m using that term more as a general description rather than calling someone out for anything. I could have just as easily said ‘fussing over’ or something like that.

 

[blandified]

Just yapping now...

I posted this as a request on the Fractal forums, but does anyone know if it will be possible to have the Plex Delay / Plex Verb block on the same dedicated DSP as the Reverb block?

I have been recently messing around with the Plex Delay, and absolutely LOVE it. The only problem is it eats up lots of DSP.

It would be nice to have the Plex Delay on the same processing as the Reverb block... as in, you can add a Reverb block and it doesn't increase your main preset DSP.

 

[SeeD]

Like JT suggested, you might be more comfortable with a BOSS product because it will never change on you. Personally, I don’t automatically jump on every new firmware update on my Fractal units (Axe 3 & both FM units). If there is something there that really interests me I’ll update, but most of the time I lag way behind on that stuff. As a result, my presets don’t change.

That is smart of you, but... you will have to `change some settings` when you update. And if this have been a while, then stuff will have changed, but what??? You would need to go back and read what he changed, to know what has happend, it get messy ( I think,, and I lived it for years)

 

[Frodebro]

That is smart of you, but... you will have to `change some settings` when you update. And if this have been a while, then stuff will have changed, but what??? You would need to go back and read what he changed, to know what has happend, it get messy ( I think,, and I lived it for years)

Sure, sometimes an update changes something. And sometimes I have to make some minor adjustments, but that doesn’t really happen all that often. It’s not like a new Coke/old Coke thing (for those old enough to remember that dark moment in human history).

 

[SeeD]

Sure, sometimes an update changes something. And sometimes I have to make some minor adjustments, but that doesn’t really happen all that often. It’s not like a new Coke/old Coke thing (for those old enough to remember that dark moment in human history).

I hope it changes in the future (by presets sounding, not altered) And that new stuff gets added (but it`s new stuff)

 

[Mongillo19]

I hope it changes in the future (by presets sounding, not altered) And that new stuff gets added (but it`s new stuff)

I think you should just stick with your QC and be happy and I truly mean that and not in a passive aggressive way

 

[crispsandwich]

I am glad to see Fractal has been pushing to improve the pitch tracking/shifting. It has definitely improved over the past year, I wouldn't say it is as good as HX yet but it has been improved so much. HX virtual capo also uses way more DSP if that matters.

Also good to see adustments made to the input/gate block. I was just on the Fractal forums a few weeks back and we were saying that the Fractal noise gate kills some of the "feel".... I can only guess but I feel like these updates were a direct result of our feedback. Good to know Fractal listens!

Yeah, Line 6 absolutely killed it with the Poly Capo. The FAS one is very good now, and Neural's sounds really good. But the HX one is still the one to beat, IMO.

 

[SeeD]

I think you should just stick with your QC and be happy and I truly mean that and not in a passive aggressive way

Im happy!

But I hope it`s ok to say what I would need to see in a posible new unit or me. I would like to own a new Fractal unit

 

[James Freeman]

Part of owning a Fractal modeler IS obsessing about the tiny details, I do want to know how the grid stopper resistor interact with miller capacitance and how much motor boating is appropriate for a cranked Twin Reverb and WHY the 5150 Presence pot taper is the most 'fixed' parameter in the AxeFx.

 

[Frodebro]

Part of owning a Fractal modeler IS obsessing about the tiny details, I do want to know how the grid stopper resistor interact with miller capacitance and how much motor boating is appropriate for a cranked Twin Reverb and WHY the 5150 Presence pot taper is the most 'fixed' parameter in the AxeFx.

Yeah, and at the other end of the spectrum are the people who want NAM and a touchscreen.