Fractal Talk

[la szum]

I wouldn’t say Cameron’s are dark. Some Bogner’s can be, depending on how you dial them in. I wouldn’t say Friedman’s are dark. Jose mods absolutely not dark. Soldano are quite smooth, or at least you can’t open them up in the same way as you can a Bogner. Lee Jackson? Not sure, they sound shite to me anyway. A lot of Diezels can be dark. Mesa is all a bit of a wash.

I think of most of the darker voiced amps as being an 80’s or 90’s thing, probably when T75’s and Greenbacks were more prevalent. Maybe also because most musicians weren’t recording at home as prevalently now, and rolled off top end can be more pleasing in the room (and sound worse in a mix).




Amps like Splawn/Diezel/JSX/Krank/VH4/Framus are ones I associated with “Chinese era” Celestion. I don’t think there is any connection to the sound of Chinese speakers and the voicing of the amps.

Maybe the only circuit I find too bright is the Slash/SIR circuits. But I don’t think that’s purely down to the brightness, they’re just a bit odd.

I feel like a lot of the music itself became darker and more menacing as we progressed into the 1990s and beyond..... and with the help from some altered/drop tunings, thicker strings, and new amp designs to help realize those themes.

Definitely was a cultural and global phenomena and not just a brand, or a band, a person, or an amp.

 

[banned]

Xvive A58 Guitar Wireless System (with Kiesel Zeus and Fractal Audio FM9)​

SIGNAL PATH: KIESEL ZEUS GUITAR - FRACTAL AUDIO FM9 MK2 TURBO WITH STOCK BRIT JVM OD1+2 PRESET ON SCENE 6: ORANGE 2

Dang, I love this amp model!

Great job Brockstar! Very inspiring to see you play!

Super tone as well!

 

[- ★ - BROCKSTAR - ★ -]

Great job Brockstar! Very inspiring to see you play!

Super tone as well!

Thanks a lot!

 

[Rock Chalk]

Damn....this sounds mighty tasty...........

AFIII - Custom AXE FX III Preset & HEAVY New Original Song Arrangement Demo

Working on arranging a series of original new songwriting ideas in Logic, and using a custom designed AXE FX III preset fed directly into Logic and the camera input. I'm loving the bridge section (and the verse that follows) as they seem to come from out of nowhere, yet also fit the song really...

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[Mikael Dez]

I’m weighing the option of cancelling my Stadium pre order and getting a used Axe FX III mk 1. I do not like how big the FM9 is and I do not want to spend more than 2k on a new device - but it seems they sell on Reverb for a reasonable price.

 

[Lysander]

I’m weighing the option of cancelling my Stadium pre order and getting a used Axe FX III mk 1.

I mean, it's not like the AxeFX III will sound like shit...

 

[Mongillo19]

I’m weighing the option of cancelling my Stadium pre order and getting a used Axe FX III mk 1. I do not like how big the FM9 is and I do not want to spend more than 2k on a new device - but it seems they sell on Reverb for a reasonable price.

You can get some III steals on reverb. I've bought a used MkII for $1450

 

[Mikael Dez]

Yeah theres a mk I for 1520 right now. I might just sit and sit for a mk 2 just because, I have nothing but time now lol

 

[deathbyguitar]

I’m weighing the option of cancelling my Stadium pre order and getting a used Axe FX III mk 1. I do not like how big the FM9 is and I do not want to spend more than 2k on a new device - but it seems they sell on Reverb for a reasonable price.

Do it. Although if you can find a Mark II for a reasonable price the new screen looks great.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I’m weighing the option of cancelling my Stadium pre order and getting a used Axe FX III mk 1. I do not like how big the FM9 is and I do not want to spend more than 2k on a new device - but it seems they sell on Reverb for a reasonable price.

 

[Mongillo19]

Do it. Although if you can find a Mark II for a reasonable price the new screen looks great.

The MKII of the Axe Fx III screen isn't different from the Mki is it?

 

[Jarick]

I’m weighing the option of cancelling my Stadium pre order and getting a used Axe FX III mk 1. I do not like how big the FM9 is and I do not want to spend more than 2k on a new device - but it seems they sell on Reverb for a reasonable price.

What are you coming from?

Axe FX 3 Mk1 is still great, I've had one for years. It's nowhere near maxed out and gets all the new firmwares including the latest betas. Way more power than I'd ever need.

The downsides are all same as any Fractal, UX on the device isn't great, and with the rack version if you don't have a rack desk already it's going to be really awkward to use. If you need any kind of switching, you basically want to get an FC6 or FC12 (which is same size as the FM9). Otherwise you'll live on your computer editor.

 

[Mongillo19]

Yeah theres a mk I for 1520 right now. I might just sit and sit for a mk 2 just because, I have nothing but time now lol

Offer them $1450 and if they accept, it was meant to be

 

[Mikael Dez]

What are you coming from?

Axe FX 3 Mk1 is still great, I've had one for years. It's nowhere near maxed out and gets all the new firmwares including the latest betas. Way more power than I'd ever need.

The downsides are all same as any Fractal, UX on the device isn't great, and with the rack version if you don't have a rack desk already it's going to be really awkward to use. If you need any kind of switching, you basically want to get an FC6 or FC12 (which is same size as the FM9). Otherwise you'll live on your computer editor.

Just sold my QC with the L6 Stadium announcement, with no modeler at the moment. I’m ready to wait til the Winter release but I’m also in a position to shop lol

 

[Mikael Dez]

The MKII of the Axe Fx III screen isn't different from the Mki is it?

The difference is really the screen, some more preset slots and I think more IR potential? Idk I just started looking into that today lol

 

[deathbyguitar]

The MKII of the Axe Fx III screen isn't different from the Mki is it?

Quite different. Way better contrast and colors. And the boot screen is different/cooler looking. And the Mark II has more storage for IRs and other crap they may or may not implement later.

Edit: And you can also change the color of the Axe-FX III logo

 

[Mongillo19]

The difference is really the screen, some more preset slots and I think more IR potential? Idk I just started looking into that today lol

Yeah I didn't even realize there was anything different with the screen

The IR situation I think was more "vital" at the time as it let you save a certain type of IR in your user slots vs a temp file (I think??)

But with dynacabs imo that whole thing has been rendered obsolete but I'm a dynacab truther

 

[deathbyguitar]

Yeah I didn't even realize there was anything different with the screen

The IR situation I think was more "vital" at the time as it let you save a certain type of IR in your user slots vs a temp file (I think??)

But with dynacabs imo that whole thing has been rendered obsolete but I'm a dynacab truther

Dynacab truther? What's that mean? lol.

I've been loving the DynaCab York Mesa 4x12 pack via CabLab 4. Sounds and feels glorious to play through. Here's to hoping he does the 2x12 next, especially since the 2x12 Recto impedance curve on the Fractal is of Justin's own cab.

 

[Mikael Dez]

Lol at this moment it's basically a $500 difference on the used market between mk 1 and mk 2 non turbo units.

 

[Mongillo19]

Lol at this moment it's basically a $500 difference on the used market between mk 1 and mk 2 non turbo units.

Imo not worth it