paisleywookiee
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Yeah at a certain point, it’s more about what fits in your purse, than what’s practical.
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Yeah at a certain point, it’s more about what fits in your purse, than what’s practical.
I have not been in the modeler game for long and was never in the pedalboard game, but I have to say that given that traditional cabs are virtually free now I'm boggled that there isn't a direct competitor to SD on this (or that Fractal or Headrush or Line6 haven't built one for their own gear. Or Radial doing a pro version at a price premium.)
I literally bought two goddamn 90s PA amps and a used headrush FRFR for less than what I'd pay for a single Tone Block 202 in order to solve this problem for my current use cases. And it's still not solved if I'm playing anywhere besides one project's rehearsal space or my one regular-ish gig. If that isn't a gear forum solution I don't know what is
Aside from public transit, I've had rehearsal spaces and gigs that were so sketch I didn't want to have to leave any gear in the car even for the seven minutes it would take to do the first trip and come back for the second, much less leave anything at the space even if it was supposedly a lockout.
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this only unironically
that was, unfortunately, what she said
laxu
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I think the problem for this sort of product is that you either have to build your own poweramp from scratch (like BluGuitar), or you package an existing poweramp module like S. Duncan does.
Hypex poweramp modules are supposed to be better than the ICEPower stuff used by SD, but I haven't seen those in any similar product. There are afaik some bass amps using them, but they are not cheap or small. The modules alone seem to be about 500 € for poweramp + powersupply, and don't look like something that fits anything close to SD Powerstage size.
The market is likely small for people who want just a compact poweramp to power their modeler, let alone folks willing to pay big bucks for it. Likely for that purpose rack units are more popular, which then brings you to stuff like the Fryette LXII which is all tube, stereo but only 1U. Or Power Station w/ rack ears for mono.
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You're good at catching posts before I delete them. Literally a few seconds after I posted I remembered how I did it. The CS MIDI button in the FC Edit section.
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It's his super power.
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It's his super power.
appreciate the comments on the poweramp modules. I figured there must be some sort of engineering issue that makes it so that any direct competitor is just going to be a powerstage in a different box.
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I think it's more likely a cost/availability issue. The ICEPower modules are fairly affordable.
I don't know if Class D poweramps are more complicated to design compared to other types.
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Class D = No sack.
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Based on how much I like my active CLR wedge, I'd be interested in seeing if someone could make a nice small Hypex based power amp to compete with SD, TC and Quilter.
Edit: I have no idea if it is feasible or not. I just like my CLR and know that there are Hypex amp and power supply modules in there.
AlbertA
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Checkout the hypex ncore stuff
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It’s all about the power supply, it's not class D's fault.Class D = No sack.
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paisleywookiee
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Class D = No sack.
Blankets keep me warm, but they’re not good for statements.
Yeah, sure, ... but how would you improve this process?
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I think this is an area growing enough that it's worth the product being created/sold by a company. Friedman has something in the works and it's almost silly for amp companies to not put some effort in this aspect of the modeling world, at the very least as an answer to the increasing amount of modeling users. More and more cabs are showing up on stages where bands are using modelers as their amp/effects. Rival Sons, Knocked Loose, Metallica (when they aren't on the donut stage), Periphery, Ola, Megadeth, etc.
The power amp aspect is the only thing stopping me from doing it. I'd be tickled pink if Fractal put one out, I wouldn't even have to question if it'd be worth it. Chances are I'll end up with a Fryette PS so I can also utilize it with my amps without an effects loop, or ones that aren't worth using.
