Fractal Audio Systems AM4 - Amp Modeler

[paisleywookiee]

Mine's still got plastic on the screen. $1500?

I just made an offer for $500 on the one I posted where he's asking $1150. Just to be a dick.

 

[Mongillo19]

I just made an offer for $500 on the one I posted where he's asking $1150. Just to be a dick.

I'm all for this but Reverb is full of people who low-ball anyway it probably isn't needed

 

[Enchilada Jones]

Why aren’t these back in stock yet??!!

Don’t spoil the surprise…

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Does it have the OG box? If so $1700

Sold! Friends and family or else add 3% for PayPal fees.

 

[JiveTurkey]

I KNOW WHAT I'VE GOT

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

I'm all for this but Reverb is full of people who low-ball anyway it probably isn't needed

If you want a negotiation, list it one eBay -- turn offers off on Reverb. The idiots broke the system.

 

[Dez]

Does it have the OG box? If so $1700

Dave Lewis lookin at that box

 

[Orvillain]

To me the biggest issue is that it's not consistent. It can be list - knobs - knobs - sliders - list - graphs - list type things where each view requires just that little bit of extra processing in your head.

I might be missing the thrust of what you're getting at, but each section of a "thing" usually requires a different user presentation. For example.... an EQ graph, versus a distortion. You wouldn't want to control a distortion with a graph, and you wouldn't want to control an EQ with 16 knobs.

It really annoys me when I open up software - or hardware displays - and everything is treated exactly the same. It is a huge usability issue to pretend that just because under the hood all of your controls plumb into the same ValueTree system, that this means they're the same. They're simply not.

If you're arguing that a graphic equaliser should be knobs, because the rest of the UI is, and you've got the horn for consistency... then sir, I do declare you are a crack addict, and you've had one too many speedballs with Uma Thurman.

 

[Los-D]

Tim looking at the same box:

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

I KNOW WHAT I'VE GOT

The number of listings on Facebook marketplace that are just the name of the device and IYKYK is so dumb. I guess I'm just supposed to know what the condition is, etc.?

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Dave Lewis lookin at that box

I ain't got no toppers, unfortunately...

 

[Orvillain]

I ain't got no toppers, unfortunately...

Behringturd Toppers(tm) are the best toppers you could ever hope to top/bottom.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I'm all for this but Reverb is full of people who low-ball anyway it probably isn't needed

$200 off of new for a used device with no warranty isn’t “low balling”.

 

[yek]

Ok, so first impressions.

User interface

• It's pretty easy to get confused by the different switching modes as you scroll through the Home screen. I'm sure I get more used to them with time. Mostly just used Effects and Amp modes, whereas with past Fractal products it was always Scenes.

Sounds familiar. I struggled with that too, at first, but it did grow on me. Now I have delegated preset switching to an external MIDI switch. This lets me stay in Effects Mode while switching presets.

 

[Orvillain]

Sounds familiar. I struggled with that too, at first, but it did grow on me. Now I have delegated preset switching to an external MIDI switch. This lets me stay in Effects Mode while switching presets.

Yeah that's a really cool way to run these units, especially if you have a Morningstar controller.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Yeah that's a really cool way to run these units, especially if you have a Morningstar controller.

BUT HOW IN THE ^!&!(#(*&!)(@*&$)(@&*^(*!&@#&*)!($@!*(&!)(*&!@)(*&$)#(*&@#$$#@#@!(*&@#)(@#*(&_!@)(#$&(#@*&#)!@(#*&$!@#_)(&$#)(@#!(*&$!_&*()#_!(*&##)@(& DO YOU CHANGE PRESETS VIA MIDI!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I kid, I kid...)

(...though perhaps too soon)

 

[hippietim]

I might be missing the thrust of what you're getting at, but each section of a "thing" usually requires a different user presentation. For example.... an EQ graph, versus a distortion. You wouldn't want to control a distortion with a graph, and you wouldn't want to control an EQ with 16 knobs.

It really annoys me when I open up software - or hardware displays - and everything is treated exactly the same. It is a huge usability issue to pretend that just because under the hood all of your controls plumb into the same ValueTree system, that this means they're the same. They're simply not.

If you're arguing that a graphic equaliser should be knobs, because the rest of the UI is, and you've got the horn for consistency... then sir, I do declare you are a crack addict, and you've had one too many speedballs with Uma Thurman.

Agreed. The Helix editors are a great example of a really sucky "everything is a slider" UI. I was using Helix Native for something last night and it's really lame.

 

[Orvillain]

BUT HOW IN THE ^!&!(#(*&!)(@*&$)(@&*^(*!&@#&*)!($@!*(&!)(*&!@)(*&$)#(*&@#$$#@#@!(*&@#)(@#*(&_!@)(#$&(#@*&#)!@(#*&$!@#_)(&$#)(@#!(*&$!_&*()#_!(*&##)@(& DO YOU CHANGE PRESETS VIA MIDI!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I kid, I kid...)

(...though perhaps too soon)

Ask @DrewJD82 - he should be an expert by now!

<ducks>

 

[Orvillain]

Agreed. The Helix editors are a great example of a really sucky "everything is a slider" UI. I was using Helix Native for something last night and it's really lame.

You should change your name to HellTim.

 

[BrownNote71]

Agreed. The Helix editors are a great example of a really sucky "everything is a slider" UI. I was using Helix Native for something last night and it's really lame.

Stadium editor has Knob view!