Digital Igloo (Eric Klein, YGG)

I don't understand why they want NAM inside Helix if the emulated Helix amps are a faithful copy of the original. Do you think NAM sounds more real than Helix?
 
Perrymusica said:
I don't understand why they want NAM inside Helix if the emulated Helix amps are a faithful copy of the original. Do you think NAM sounds more real than Helix?
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While I wouldn't notice a big difference, I can understand it could be a priority if Line6 evaluates profiling as a very decisive factor on choosing brand. I don't think it's the case yet.
 
Foxmeister said:
The reason I'd like to see capture technology such as NAM in the Helix is mostly to allow me to capture my own amps and use them in the Helix.
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Wouldn't that be feasible with, say, ToneX One on the fx loop?

Yeah, I know I know, you could just save that money and fx loop slot.
 
Perrymusica said:
What amps do you have? Some of those are in Helix but do you like your real one better?
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I like these kind of questions. Reminds me of trying to understand why some people ask for things like support for 6 button Mega Drive controllers on a SNES Mini so you can play Mega Drive games... and then that people usually don't play that much 🤣
 
molul said:
Wouldn't that be feasible with, say, ToneX One on the fx loop?

Yeah, I know I know, you could just save that money and fx loop slot.
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I have a ToneX, but the lack of MIDI makes it less flexible in this regard than a full-fat ToneX

However, a NAM block in the Helix would still be superior in most applications, IMO.
 
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Perrymusica said:
What amps do you have? Some of those are in Helix but do you like your real one better?
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*None* of the amps that I own are in the Helix, except, perhaps, my Morgan PR12, which is essentially a Princeton.

It misses the point though - can I get close to my amps with a modelled amp in the Helix?

Probably yes, but not necessarily with the cabs that I have, and I don't have enough time, patience, skill, or mics to produce the IRs I might want.

Would a NAM capture block be easier? Definitely, in my opinion.

Would a NAM capture block expand the Helix exponentially? Undoubtedly! (IMO)

As far as I'm concerned, in this scenario more is more and a NAM block gives me infinitely more.
 
Foxmeister said:
Probably yes, but not necessarily with the cabs that I have, and I don't have enough time, patience, skill, or mics to produce the IRs I might want.

Would a NAM capture block be easier? Definitely, in my opinion.
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If you captured your amp, you'd still not have your cabs captured. Also, as you're not really playing live much (from all I remember), why don't you just capture your amps anyway and use them in one of the various plugins?
 
Hi there, @Digital Igloo ! Is there any chance of having a new block similar to Waves MaxxBass plugin in the Helix? Yesterday I was using it after a Cougar amp block and it made a huge difference :O
 
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@Digital Igloo , you mentioned that there are some new HX adjacent products on the way. Is it too much to say if any of these will be of the portable / acoustic jam category? I'm looking for a way to contribute some electric guitar to a ukulele group at polite volume, something like a THRII.
 
Sascha Franck said:
If you captured your amp, you'd still not have your cabs captured. Also, as you're not really playing live much (from all I remember), why don't you just capture your amps anyway and use them in one of the various plugins?
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I'm well aware of all the options that are open to me, but that doesn't stop me desiring a capture block in the Helix, although I don't believe we are going to get one - it would be nice to have, and I think it could dispel the commonly held misconception that the Helix is somehow old tech!

It certainly isn't a hill that I've any desire to die on! ;)

That being said, I prefer using dedicated hardware over plug-ins most of the time, and of the two places that I regular play in, only one is really setup to use with a laptop and plug-ins.

Now, I think I've sidetracked Eric's thread enough with a pipedream! ;)
 
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Will it ever be possible for multiple footswitch assigned parameters to be to change simultaneously? We're certainly getting into luxuries and minutia now, but it would be a QOL improvement.
 
CakeEater said:
Will it ever be possible for multiple footswitch assigned parameters to be to change simultaneously? We're certainly getting into luxuries and minutia now, but it would be a QOL improvement.
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That's already doable in the controller assignment screen in HX Edit. That said, I'd love to be able to assign multiple MIDI CC/Program messages to a footswitch in Command Center in stompbox mode. I'd also love to have a few more MIDI slots per preset in Command Center. In my example, I'm using my HX Stomp XL to control MIDI switching on my board and having just two Jackson Audio pedals eats up all six MIDI slots as they each use three MIDI slots to control the three functions on each pedal (I've traded emails with JA about them adding master MIDI all-on/all-off commands at some point to free up command space on some presets/snapshots), so I've had to cut back on how much MIDI I can implement on my board. This really limits how much you can do with the HX platform as the heart of any rig.
 
Mookyshoots said:
That's already doable in the controller assignment screen in HX Edit. That said, I'd love to be able to assign multiple MIDI CC/Program messages to a footswitch in Command Center in stompbox mode. I'd also love to have a few more MIDI slots per preset in Command Center. In my example, I'm using my HX Stomp XL to control MIDI switching on my board and having just two Jackson Audio pedals eats up all six MIDI slots as they each use three MIDI slots to control the three functions on each pedal (I've traded emails with JA about them adding master MIDI all-on/all-off commands at some point to free up command space on some presets/snapshots), so I've had to cut back on how much MIDI I can implement on my board. This really limits how much you can do with the HX platform as the heart of any rig.
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Well kind of. You can assign multiple parameters to a single footswitch, but they actually change in a very quick series, not instantaneously like blocks. As an example, if you wanted to up the gain and down the channel volume in an amp block, the gain would increase first, then the volume would lower, it's for a fraction of a second, but you might hear a momentary spike in output between the two actions.
 
CakeEater said:
not instantaneously like blocks
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Even multiple assigned blocks don't always switch instantaneously. They just seem to most of the time, but there's some constellations when you might get brutally loud pops, such in scenarios when you switch different amp blocks on/off alternatively. There sometimes seem to be very short moments when both amps are on at the same time.
 
Sascha Franck said:
Even multiple assigned blocks don't always switch instantaneously. They just seem to most of the time, but there's some constellations when you might get brutally loud pops, such in scenarios when you switch different amp blocks on/off alternatively. There sometimes seem to be very short moments when both amps are on at the same time.
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Yeah, I never alter amp blocks anymore, I just put them in parallel with -120dB gain blocks after them, one activated, and one deactivated, and use that as my switch, I even found the A/B Split's Route To parameter can pop at times.
 
I don’t use captures, but I can totally understand someone wanting the whole Helix experience (hardware, routing, effects) with their particular captures.

I’d imagine it could pose an identity crisis in the Line6 marketing department, being an amp modeling company and all. But I’m sure that’s what they get paid the medium bucks to deal with.
 
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