Did you pre-order the Helix Stadium?

[Stone]

Tone is in the Kitchen appliances I say !!

 

[Gary_W]

Tone is in the Kitchen appliances I say !!

Tim and I could bond over our kitchen appliances; our oven is French, expensive initially (lasted forever) and older than my Kemper. Unlike my Kemper, I’m not in the market for replacing the oven - that thing is still awesome :)

However, I don’t have a hot tub unless I fart in the bath so there’s limits to the bromance here.

 

[timbuck3]

I thought the hype knob would be more like the push switch on my katana artist 3 .. that pushed switch really makes a diff

 

[timbuck3]

Tim and I could bond over our kitchen appliances; our oven is French, expensive initially (lasted forever) and older than my Kemper. Unlike my Kemper, I’m not in the market for replacing the oven - that thing is still awesome :)

However, I don’t have a hot tub unless I fart in the bath so there’s limits to the bromance here.

Lol
Your oven sounds amazing nteresting

 

[timbuck3]

A lot (too much) to unpack here.

I just want to say: I, for one, cannot live without my paddleboard.

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[Fireproof]

Well I got some disappointing news from my Sweetwater Rep:

Thanks for reaching out. We currently have about 400 on the way to our warehouse for this month and just over 1000 in December. I’ve left a notification for myself to let me know as soon as these are in. Looks like yours is in the queue for December 29th, so part of the 1000 batch.

My order was placed on July 31.

Looks like no thanksgiving playtime for me.

 

[bucephalus]

Not sure if you also saw Cliff mentioned next gen having a touchscreen, SSD, and maybe something else?

Certainly doesn't mean anything is imminent. If anything, I believe it is still very much in the conceptual/planning phase. Also, slapping a touchscreen on a unit doesn't automatically make it easy to use. I imagine they took that into account

It'll also make the Stadium look like a Game Boy

 

[Fireproof]

If anyone has a GC/MF discount code they aren’t using - message me. Might as well place an order there as well in case they get larger allocations vs their preorder list.

 

[laxu]

Tone is in the Kitchen appliances I say !!

Now with touchscreens streaming ads straight to your kitchen!

 

[Digital Igloo]

Hope this gives @Digital Igloo and the team some time to actually sleep before launch.

Haaahaaahaaa!

<deep breath>

HAAAHAHAAHAAAAHAAAAAA!

<cries>

 

[Lysander]

It'll also make the Stadium look like a Game Boy

...cheap?

 

[Lysander]

HAAAHAHAAHAAAAHAAAAAA!

 

[timbuck3]

If anyone has a GC/MF discount code they aren’t using - message me. Might as well place an order there as well in case they get larger allocations vs their preorder list.

I just got another one

 

[timbuck3]

Now with touchscreens streaming ads straight to your kitchen!

I have knobs and touchscreens on my ovens… and hotub

 

[Fireproof]

I just got another one

Thanks Tim. But someone already hooked me up!! Love this forum.

 

[timbuck3]

Thanks Tim. But someone already hooked me up!! Love this forum.

Anyone need one let me know
Also remember, I can send you a screenshot of the coupon and you can take that to any guitar center and they’ll just match it with my musicians friend. I mean they own them so they’ll just match you if guitar center is closer to you plus if it’s closer, you can return it if you need to in person instead of shipping it.

 

[timbuck3]

Yeah Gasp is something else. Dude has admitted that he loses a lot of money buying, selling and rebuying yet doesn't see any reason to course correct.

While I kinda see what Tim is going for...I agree that never buying anything because something even better might come out is not going to work well. They could literally pick any current or upcoming platform, get years of enjoyment out of it, then when that "perfect" thing finally comes out, sell their current gear and buy the new one.

I'm probably the guy in the middle. I've had a lot of modelers over the years because I like to try them out for myself. I can't think of a single one that I felt was actually bad. All of them had their own pros and cons, and sometimes those cons are enough for me to move on.

• Fractal: I love their amps, cabs, fx and features...but hate working with their hardware without the computer

It seems I hear over and over about the fractal and it’s interface so we all know that if the fractal had a helix touchscreen or something similar on it, it would be just game over

 

[laxu]

It seems I hear over and over about the fractal and it’s interface so we all know that if the fractal had a helix touchscreen or something similar on it, it would be just game over

It's not just about having a touchscreen. You can try the Fractal Axe-edit UI with a touchscreen using a 3rd party tool called FracPad. Now Axe-Edit is one of the better computer editors but just translating it to a tablet, it doesn't work that much better. It's still a reverse-engineered version that lacks polish, and works with the existing paradigms of Axe-Edit. I hope Fractal have at least hired its developer to work on mobile editors for next gen.

Touchscreen + knobs is the way to go so you have tactile control over parameters like Stadium does. Line6 also has the controls in a consistent location at the bottom of the screen, whereas on Fractal each view can be different on the front panel UI, which means you have to reorient yourself all the time with a little "ok now where was that param I want?" mental exercise.

Helix has had a similar issue where the parameter order is inconsistent. If you are looking for a Mix knob in several effects, it might be the Nth param in effect 1, and the N+1 param in effect 2, and N-2 in effect 3. I hope for HX Stadium they would fix that so you can expect common parameters to be found under the same knob for consistency.

Fractal's challenge is to simplify their user interfaces so that they fit on a larger touchscreen while allowing for fast movement between blocks. That's currently the difference between Axe-Edit vs their onboard UI, you can just click any block to open it up for editing.

The onboard UI requires you to painstakingly move a cursor over it, hit Edit, find the right page because it defaults to model list etc. Or alternatively spam Edit until the right block is on screen. The cycling order with multiple rows is always column -> row so you go e.g Amp1 -> Amp2 -> Cab1 -> Cab2 if you have dual amps/cabs in parallel, when a more sensible order would be via connection (Amp1 -> Cab1).

 

[Stone]

It seems I hear over and over about the fractal and it’s interface so we all know that if the fractal had a helix touchscreen or something similar on it, it would be just game over

thats not true for all cases, for my needs a TS is absolutely useless.

 

[Melodioso]

It seems I hear over and over about the fractal and it’s interface so we all know that if the fractal had a helix touchscreen or something similar on it, it would be just game over

The perfect guitar tone doesn't exist. The perfect amp modeler doesn't exist. Each will always have their pros and cons.

Stop worrying about buyer's regret or the "fear of missing out" and start enjoying whatever you have now. I'm being sincere.

P.S: Currently, for live and high-gain duties, I'm primarily using the Cali IV Lead model from the Helix (through a 2/50/2 and a Zilla cab). It was released in 2016 (it's almost 10 years old!). It sounds glorious. It's not the limiting factor.