80% of digital modellers & c buyers are bedroom players according to marketing researches

[FuzzyAce]

Based on a number of success stories from social media and youtube, being a "bedroom" player has lost some of the stigma associated with the term, imo. If you're motivated you can make a nice career, assuming you find a niche to capitalize on. So I don't see the % of live musicians playing venues going up anytime soon, unless something dramatically changes.

 

[HotRats]

An unnecessary clarification

I quote Lee Anderton from the video

So the this is right the market research from neural is that 80% of customers who buy this type [they have a fender TMP and an FRFR cab] of product are just playing at home.

So they've bought a pro kind of modeling piece of kit to play at home because it's fine.

@jay mitchell "home player" is not the opposite of working musician because there are non working musicians that are not home players.

 

[jay mitchell]

@jay mitchell "home player" is not the opposite of working musician because there are non working musicians that are not home players.

TL/DR: we are pretty much all "home players" as long as we practice on a regular basis. Some of us play in other environments as well.

You're trying to make an obvious meaning far too specific. FYI, the phrase in the subject line is "bedroom player," which carries the implication that that's the only kind of place an individual plays. The word "bedroom" could be replaced by "living room," "garage," or "man cave" with no change in meaning. OTOH, the phrase I used - "gigging musician" - does not mean only people whose sole income is from music performance. I've known and worked with quite a few working musicians who made substantial portions of their income from nonmusical activities. I've been in that group myself at times. We were nonetheless working musicians. My definition of "working musician" means that you derive at least some of your income from musical activity, including performing live, recording, writing, arranging, and/or producing.

FYI, the distinction carries no stigma re:skill level. I've known some killer players who only ever play at home.

 

[Karl Houseknecht]

FYI, the distinction carries no stigma

Disagree, Jay. It’s used derogatorily all the time.

 

[jay mitchell]

Disagree, Jay. It’s used derogatorily all the time.

To the extent that anyone uses the phrase as a pejorative, they are demonstrably wrong.

 

[Chocol8]

To the extent that anyone uses the phrase as a pejorative, they are demonstrably wrong.

That's an accurate description of about 99% of what I see posted on the Gear Page. So yes, they are wrong, but it never stops them from continuing to say it.

 

[paisleywookiee]

The only interest I’d ever have in something like Suno would be for it to spit out great drum midi. I don’t want it to polish anything. I don’t want more ideas. I don’t want anything played. JUST the drums.

 

[[Nathan]]

The only interest I’d ever have in something like Suno would be for it to spit out great drum midi. I don’t want it to polish anything. I don’t want more ideas. I don’t want anything played. JUST the drums.

If superior4 adds something like that they’ll get my money on day one. Not generic stuff (I can do that), but solid options with a drummers brain and flair would be epic

 

[Orvillain]

Oh come on, are you seriously telling us you don't secretly want to play one a thousand more takes of Mustang Sally for a bunch of obnoxiously drunk middle age women?

Have never played it. Not even at home!!!

 

[Mikael Dez]

Have never played it. Not even at home!!!

Idk what Mustang Sally even is, maybe that’s showing my age

 

[Mongillo19]

Idk what Mustang Sally even is, maybe that’s showing my age

Do you want to be banned now or at a time of your choosing?

 

[jay mitchell]

Idk what Mustang Sally even is, maybe that’s showing my age

It's actually a pretty good song for the era, but it's been done incompetently for decades. "Simple" /= "easy."

 

[jay mitchell]

Here's another Wilson Pickett song from the same era:

 

[Mikael Dez]

It's actually a pretty good song for the era, but it's been done incompetently for decades. "Simple" /= "easy."

I looked it up since commenting and I agree, it’s a good song

 

[FuzzyAce]

Idk what Mustang Sally even is, maybe that’s showing my age

 

[Frodebro]

Idk what Mustang Sally even is, maybe that’s showing my age

It's a rite of passage for anyone that has played in a cover band over the past sixty years or so. Something about people when they drink alcohol, their brains default to a very narrow and specific song list of requests. Mustang Sally, Sweet Home Alabama, Brown Eyed Girl, Free Bird, I could go on.

 

[FuzzyAce]

It's a rite of passage for anyone that has played in a cover band over the past sixty years or so. Something about people when they drink alcohol, their brains default to a very narrow and specific song list of requests. Mustang Sally, Sweet Home Alabama, Brown Eyed Girl, Free Bird, I could go on.

Yep, even 50 yrs from now some jokester will scream "Free Bird!" from the audience. Count on it.

 

[Frodebro]

Yep, even 50 yrs from now some jokester will scream "Free Bird!" from the audience. Count on it.

My old band did Free Bird exactly once, and it was an off-the-cuff, unrehearsed jam on the song. I think we stretched it out to 18 or twenty minutes. The guy who requested it bribed us with a tray full of double Cuervos to play the song, so we obliged him.

 

[HotRats]

TL/DR: we are pretty much all "home players" as long as we practice on a regular basis. Some of us play in other environments as well.

You're trying to make an obvious meaning far too specific. FYI, the phrase in the subject line is "bedroom player," which carries the implication that that's the only kind of place an individual plays. The word "bedroom" could be replaced by "living room," "garage," or "man cave" with no change in meaning. OTOH, the phrase I used - "gigging musician" - does not mean only people whose sole income is from music performance. I've known and worked with quite a few working musicians who made substantial portions of their income from nonmusical activities. I've been in that group myself at times. We were nonetheless working musicians. My definition of "working musician" means that you derive at least some of your income from musical activity, including performing live, recording, writing, arranging, and/or producing.

FYI, the distinction carries no stigma re:skill level. I've known some killer players who only ever play at home.

We're not talking about semantic but statistcs.
The label "home player" is choosed by the resercher and applied to a subject following some criteria or self applied by the responder.

it just means "a player that moslly use the device at home for whatever reasons"

You're putting too much into this.

 

[Orvillain]

It's a rite of passage for anyone that has played in a cover band over the past sixty years or so. Something about people when they drink alcohol, their brains default to a very narrow and specific song list of requests. Mustang Sally, Sweet Home Alabama, Brown Eyed Girl, Free Bird, I could go on.

There's a bit of a chicken and egg situation with this though. All cover bands ever seem to do is play these old chod songs, and so people expect them to, and that's what they want.

But I reckon if you had a cover band playing exclusively late 90's and early 2000's rock, people would enjoy it much much more. Chuck in a doom metal version of Spice Up Your Life, and you're golden.