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[HomespunEffects]

Actually there’s a huge likelihood that if you encounter that it’s modulating from C to Am.
And no it’s not a secondary dominant because it is the primary dominant in Am.

The F7 can be subVofV. However it really comes from being subdominant.

As in the Ⅳ-7 Ⅳ-6/Ⅱø7 ♭Ⅱ△7 ♭Ⅵ7
D-7 D-6/Bø7 B♭△7 F7 in Am.

So that F7 isn’t coming from the world of C but Am.

Alternatively F-7 F-6 B♭7 D♭△7 A♭7 are minor subdominants.
Meaning they are chords from C- used for swapping out the subdominant and/or dominant in C.

But he’s said in C major which simplified the whole thing.

 

[la szum]

Definitely can't trust this thread.

 

[TSJMajesty]

Definitely can't trust understand this thread.

FIFY

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

But he’s said in C major which simplified the whole thing.

But he’s said in C major which simplified the whole thing.

As I said I’m aight with E7 Am being Vofvi- vi- but in my experience it modulates to Am at that point where it’ll be V I-

I mean look at stuff like Autumn Leaves II- V I IV and then it goes to the relative minor doing Ⅱø Ⅴ7alt Ⅰ-7 and goes back to major via a Vofii-

Another tell tale that you’re in minor is that the Ⅶø usually only is use as an inversion of a rootles V9.

And if someone actually cares but doesn’t like numerals

A-7 D7 G△7 C△7
F♯ø B7 E-7 E7

 

[HomespunEffects]

As I said I’m aight with E7 Am being Vofvi- vi- but in my experience it modulates to Am at that point where it’ll be V I-

I see. Yep.

I mean look at stuff like Autumn Leaves II- V I IV

My favorite part of that is there’s a second 2 5 1 in the 5 1 4, kinda. It’s just not a minor 2 but the pattern of 4ths is nifty.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I see. Yep.

My favorite part of that is there’s a second 2 5 1 in the 5 1 4, kinda. It’s just not a minor 2 but the pattern of 4ths is nifty.

I view that as cycle 4 stuff. It’s great fun shedding cycle 4 stuff.

Cycle 4 etudes

Cycle 4 etudes

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[Ed DeGenaro]

This might be of interest

Everything You Don't Know About Minor Harmony • Jazzadvice

Minor harmony and minor keys in jazz give improvisers so much trouble. The Natural Minor, Harmonic Minor, Melodic MInor, Dorian mode...in this lesson we'll create minor harmony from the ground up!

www.jazzadvice.com

 

[HomespunEffects]

This might be of interest

Everything You Don't Know About Minor Harmony • Jazzadvice

Minor harmony and minor keys in jazz give improvisers so much trouble. The Natural Minor, Harmonic Minor, Melodic MInor, Dorian mode...in this lesson we'll create minor harmony from the ground up!

www.jazzadvice.com

Long weekend upcoming. I will read it.