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[Ed DeGenaro]

It's actually not that tough. Maybe we could start a little basic theory thread one day.

Or folks could just ask for an explanation.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I am the hotdog in your mom's hallway.

damned autocorrect

Isn’t everyone

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I wanna know what they call the 6th chord played in Smoke on the Water. What's that all about, in 'theory-speak?'

Seeing that the intro is a Gm riff based on the Gm Blues scale and harmonised in 4th.

And a chord takes 3 notes to be a chord, the one borrowed chord is a half step approach to C and it’d be Db5.

Now going by how this thread started with referring a pool of notes to the parent scale instead of a tonal center the by the OPs logic Smoke On The Water would not be in G minor since the note are from Ab major/G locrian.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

That's not what I meant. I know how to name chords.

I mean, like how they're discussing chords in terms of a 'home key', and calling them a iib, or backdoor dominant (whatever the heck that is), or a tritone, etc.

If you really wanna make a case for it it’d be an incomplete Db7 which is a tritone sub for a secondary dominant (G7) leading to C.
Alternatively if you see it incl the G bass note it’ll Db/G which makes G7susb9b5

 

[HomespunEffects]

Now going by how this thread started with referring a pool of notes to the parent scale instead of a tonal center the by the OPs logic Smoke On The Water would not be in G minor since the note are from Ab major/G locrian.

Finally, someone is talking sensibly.

I will be bringing up the difference between key and scale with my guitar teacher when we start back up in a couple weeks. Thanks.

 

[Dogboy]

That’s in Rock and Roll A. Overthinking simple things is what killed rock.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Overthinking simple things is what killed rock.

Deservedly so!

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

That’s in Rock and Roll A. Overthinking simple things is what killed rock.

Tell you what I think killed it, one thing is audiences expecting a repeat of what the artists did.
That’s why we have legacy acts doing less than capacity in under 1000 people venues performing material from over 4 decades ago for middle aged guys that peeked in high school running amok on memory lane.

The other that it’s more important to mime well to edited audio for YouTube than to learn to play that shit in real time.

I mean if guys like Tim Henson could do this for real that’s new generation be amazing.

 

[HomespunEffects]

That’s in Rock and Roll A. Overthinking simple things is what killed rock.

I think I’m underthinking though.

 

[Sascha Franck]

For starters: To call the piece of music discussed here "rock" is possibly a bit of a wide stretch.
Just sayin...

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

For starters: To call the piece of music discussed here "rock" is possibly a bit of a wide stretch.
Just sayin...

Truth.
But the bottom line here is the OP decided common terminology wasn’t lining up with his gobbled together terminology and vented against it.
And most of us pointed out …it’s in A end of story.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Truth.
But the bottom line here is the OP decided common terminology wasn’t lining up with his gobbled together terminology and vented against it.
And most of us pointed out …it’s in A end of story.

You say that as if I’m the only one that looks at it that way.

 

[Sascha Franck]

You say that as if I’m the only one that looks at it that way.

You're likely not. But that isn't necessarily a good thing.
As said before: Use whatever works. But once you start communicating about whatever musical content, IMO it's a decent idea to resort to the most common denominators.

 

[HomespunEffects]

You're likely not. But that isn't necessarily a good thing.
As said before: Use whatever works. But once you start communicating about whatever musical content, IMO it's a decent idea to resort to the most common denominators.

I get what you’re saying.

I will take issue with “gobbled together” as if it’s not methodical.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I get what you’re saying.

I will take issue with “gobbled together” as if it’s not methodical.

Gobbled together meaning:
To put something together in a makeshift way.

Which is precisely what your “system”.
But that was not the point but rather that you felt the need to start a thread about something being wrong that is right.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Cobbled

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

Cobbled

I get 2nd language mulligan

 

[HomespunEffects]

Gobbled together meaning:
To put something together in a makeshift way.

Which is precisely what your “system”.

This is the same argument on a different subject. I guess we just define things differently. What i mean is it’s not makeshift, it’s purposeful and methodical.

But that was not the point but rather that you felt the need to start a thread about something being wrong that is right.

I guess I just don’t get how it’s easier to communicate by saying this song is in A major but there’s an Em⁷. My way for the verse would be 5 2-⁷ 1⁹ in D. I think everyone would know what that means. I will accept the admonishment and further explanation though.

I don’t mind being wrong, but I’d like to learn why.

 

[PLX]

peeked

*peaked

 

[HomespunEffects]

*peaked

You stop that!