Why isn't bass cut a more popular feature on a guitar?

[murphy brown]

Yeah I use it usually to add a bit more bass for clean tones and then make it leaner for overdrive. For me not having to press a footswitch, configure an amp or pedal, and just being able to roll down a knob right there and then is handy.

I kinda want to add one to my Skervesen Shoggie 8-string, but it would require a concentric knob.

I think I can use a similar setup.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Best done with the amp IMO.

An opinion shared by all the tube screamer users out there, for sure.

 

[Trollbait]

Guitarists don't want to “cut” anything, only boost.

I have to cut at around 100hz. I set up the tone controls on the guitar once and do all the eq on the guitar pre amp.

 

[Will Chen]

Once modelers came around allowing precise EQ control at any stage in the signal chain...honestly, if I could I'd remove the tone control entirely on near every guitar I own I would.

 

[murphy brown]

I have to cut at around 100hz. I set up the tone controls on the guitar once and do all the eq on the guitar pre amp.

Yes of course, you can turn any unwanted tone into music with the right tweak.

 

[Trollbait]

Yes of course, you can turn any unwanted tone into music with the right tweak.

While I'm a big fan of noise especially from drone synthesizers, I don't enjoy listening to feedback from a particular frequency.

To me the tone controls on the guitar have a sweet spot and I just leave it there. The same goes for analog synthesizer settings only since you're looking modulation one dial setting affects another so you're always finding that sweet spot.

guitars have a lot of modulation control over the oscillating strings (oscillators) using fingers, palms, body for vibrato, bending, muting etc.

 

[murphy brown]

While I'm a big fan of noise especially from drone synthesizers, I don't enjoy listening to feedback from a particular frequency.

To me the tone controls on the guitar have a sweet spot and I just leave it there. The same goes for analog synthesizer settings only since you're looking modulation one dial setting affects another so you're always finding that sweet spot.

guitars have a lot of modulation control over the oscillating strings (oscillators) using fingers, palms, body for vibrato, bending, muting etc.

If that's what floats your boat. I can't force my preference to you, but I bet you are crushing it with that setup.

 

[pipelineaudio]

Anyone have a schematic for this? Is it a high pass filter?

 

[FuzzyAce]

Anyone have a schematic for this? Is it a high pass filter?

Pot values of 500K work well, but you can also try 1M. Play around with cap values too. 0.022 - 0.047µF for treble pot, 0.001 - 0.002µF for bass pot -- or try something else.

 

[laxu]

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Pot values of 500K work well, but you can also try 1M. Play around with cap values too. 0.022 - 0.047µF for treble pot, 0.001 - 0.002µF for bass pot -- or try something else.

I recommend 1M pots and that's what G&L uses. If you use it for treble knob too, expect to turn the knob down a lot. On my G&L Legacy my tone knob is often somewhere around 5-6 which puts it more in line with typical Strat tones, with added headroom to go up if you want brighter.

I used 500K on my Flaxwood Rautia (dual humbuckers) for the bass cut and the range isn't quite as natural as on my G&L Legacy with 1M pots. I used a 2.2 nF/0.0022 µF cap.

 

[murphy brown]

Using 1M pots for both volume and tone knobs in my G&L Legacy provides added headroom for brighter tones, typically set around 5-6 for a more Strat-like sound, while on my Flaxwood Rautia with dual humbuckers, the 500K pots and a 2.2 nF/0.0022 µF cap for bass cut result in a slightly different and less natural range compared to the G&L Legacy with 1M pots.

 

[saarangnarayan]

I can also see how this would benefit modern metal type stuff where cutting gain pre-gain is a vital component to the tone. I did try putting 1meg pots in a HSH guitar once and I liked the results but I think a bass-cut might actually make more sense.

 

[murphy brown]

I can also see how this would benefit modern metal type stuff where cutting gain pre-gain is a vital component to the tone. I did try putting 1meg pots in a HSH guitar once and I liked the results but I think a bass-cut might actually make more sense.

I would love to see your work. Feel free to share them once you are done.

 

[HomespunEffects]

I had installed one on my P90 Les Paul. It could have been a switch as the only two useful position were full on and full off. I went back to a tone control after about a year and a half. I found it … okay-ish.

 

[FuzzyAce]

I had installed one on my P90 Les Paul. It could have been a switch as the only two useful position were full on and full off. I went back to a tone control after about a year and a half. I found it … okay-ish.

It's not for everyone I'd imagine, and some pickups may not really benefit from the mod. Personally, I've come to love it and wish I'd done this much sooner. All of my main guitars have a variation installed now.

 

[HomespunEffects]

It's not for everyone I'd imagine, and some pickups may not really benefit from the mod. Personally, I've come to love it and wish I'd done this much sooner. All of my main guitars have a variation installed now.

Yeah, I’m not sure it was a good choice on a P90 guitar. I only installed it because I wanted a master volume/tone and had two unused potentiometers.

 

[HomespunEffects]

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Pot values of 500K work well, but you can also try 1M. Play around with cap values too. 0.022 - 0.047µF for treble pot, 0.001 - 0.002µF for bass pot -- or try something else.

I think I’ll try that on my red Strat. Thanks for that.

 

[HomespunEffects]

I think I’ll try that on my red Strat. Thanks for that.

I have to experiment more on the Treble as it goes from super bright to ultra bright. The bass is subtle but i think that’s just right.

 

[soundxplorer]

I love G&L's bass cut control too. It's very handy when running pedals in front of an amp, especially fuzz. A passive cut is often needed there, because a lot of fuzz pedals don't react well with an active EQ in front of them.

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

I have one in my carvin, and I love it!!!....wish more "tone" controls worked the same way....guess I need new projects.