If we are having a conversation about a next generation device and all you can contribute is “nah, don’t want that” then I don’t understand why you’re even talking about the next gen device since it seems all you want is your AM4/VP4 with more content?
I mean, that's more than a bit reductive, and I'm not sure why you feel the need to push back at all. I don't want capture. I would absolutely be interested in a next generation modeler. I'm not saying I will refuse to even look at it if he simply allowed for a NAM block. But if the device pivots significantly toward capture and away from modeling, then you're right. I'll stand pat.
See, I think there's some reading in going on. I'm not planning on faulting Fractal or anyone else for anything. I'm just saying what I am and am not interested in in terms of where resources go. There are more choices than "all devices must have it" and "anyone who adds it is a charlatan whom I will disown."
Sure, and I said that, too. But if one such item wasn't in there and the topic was whether I want that item to be added, I would have had the same response. "Nah, I'm good."
I'm saying "nah, don't want that" regarding specific possible features, not about a next gen device. I am not accepting the assertion that next gen must mean captures and a touch screen, and that seems to really be bothering some people. I am fully aware that Cliff may already have decided that both are indeed part of what he has chosen for his next generation. But so far as I understand, he said something like that once on a now-deleted post on another forum. In any case, it was not a fait accompli. He had (has) a choice.
At this point, you are just making up extreme scenarios
Im just asking for things you'd prefer to see on next gen Fractal because as mentioned, we are in a next gen Fractal device discussion thread. Some basic thought is all I'm asking.
Significant is a pretty low threshold. Besides, @Boudoir Guitar has posited the notion of Cliff developing a Dynacabs-level full on iteration on NAM, and I was responding in the context of that conversation.At this point, you are just making up extreme scenarios
I personally would love to see an expansion of the FAS "no physical equivalent" models idea, with editor and/or code supporting a sort of "mod shop" for players. Models of gear that doesn't physically exist. That could apply to pedals as well - let people build out every fancypants Tube Screamer ever offered, and then dial in their own with various mods. It's arguable much of this already exists in Fractal's deep dive editing capability, but formalizing it and presenting in this context would be huge. Likewise, having more FAS models, perhaps informed by engagements with players, studio engineers, and amp builders, could be fun and creatively stimulating.
By resources, I mean the people side, not the device, though I completely understand how you could have gotten the opposite impression.
Yes, that'll definitely be a big deal for people who use captures, no doubt about it. I presume we're talking about "full" NAM, not the nerfed version currently available on cheap devices.
strange you say that, but yet you don't want NAM capability
Noted. Thank you!
I only have the Tonex. I said in a thread a while back that it had been sold, but I was premature, my buyer (whom I know) flaked after trying it for a good while, and he gave it back without buying it. I'll just keep it at this point. I tried the 2.0 captures, and they are definitely improved. But they're captures. I use it as a guest player device for quiet sessions.
Are you suggesting that adding NAM will lead directly to Fractal hiring more staff, people skilled at a level comparable to Cliff?
Noooow who is shoving words in the mouths of others.
I actually phrased it as a question, and edited it before you posted this to be more clear. I am asking, not shoving.
OK. But what I was trying to ask was whether you felt that adding NAM would in fact directly lead to more highly skilled people being brought on board. I mentioned Cliff since he is the main resource in question at the moment. Because skill level matters a lot when planning development resources (I do it for a living).
Yeah, that's probably the long and short of it. I guess I don't understand that emotional reactions and repeated follow ups to "I'll pass." If we all think it's going to happen, what does anyone care that some people kinda find that to be disappointing?