What Are You Working On Right Now?

[Eagle]

He's basically saying everything I think about and have retained over the years with soloing, but he's able to express it in a teachable way.

I make a shitty teacher with this kind of stuff.

This is great and so easily understood. It really shows the advantages of understanding theory. It makes learning new stuff so much quicker.

 

[FuzzyAce]

This is great and so easily understood. It really shows the advantages of understanding theory. It makes learning new stuff so much quicker.

Definitely. It's all a balance act too - with training the ear, learning where the notes are on the fingerboard, and then executing. Ultimate goal is to not have to concentrate too hard so you can just play. A never-ending process, yet still enjoyable.

 

[Eagle]

Definitely. It's all a balance act too - with training the ear, learning where the notes are on the fingerboard, and then executing. Ultimate goal is to not have to concentrate too hard so you can just play. A never-ending process, yet still enjoyable.

Totally, I use theory to learn stuff I can’t hear yet . Then internalise the sound and finally when improvising you don’t think about anything but the sound you want. I’m not good enough to miss out the theory bit.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

This is great information and all just on one scale. It's so good to see this in theory terms. So many just try to do this by ear and never manage to nail even half of this video their whole life.

This is why I left my current teacher. Not because of the individual. And even the band is pretty good. But zero theory and zero real explanation about why stuff works as it does. And as you might have come to know me... I am super curious and love going down into rabit holes.

My new teacher, first lesson... CAGED. And now I know all the notes on the EAD Or at least how to find them.

This video is also one of those things... Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

 

[Eagle]

This is why I left my current teacher. Not because of the individual. And even the band is pretty good. But zero theory and zero real explanation about why stuff works as it does. And as you might have come to know me... I am super curious and love going down into rabit holes.

My new teacher, first lesson... CAGED. And now I know all the notes on the EAD Or at least how to find them.

This video is also one of those things... Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!

Dani is excellent, check out his other videos.
Start with how to memorise the notes.
I have never seen anyone put out such comprehensive concise information. The best teaching channel I have found for theory, harmony and how to actually use it in your own playing.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

Dani is excellent, check out his other videos.
Start with how to memorise the notes.
I have never seen anyone put out such comprehensive concise information. The best teaching channel I have found for theory, harmony and how to actually use it in your own playing.

Thanks man! Will check out

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

Are there easier ways to play the G form and D form of CAGED?

The one fret stretch is a bit too much at times with 4 fingers.

Somebody mentioned it can be simpler but can’t find it

 

[Aelred]

CAGED major chord shapes | fingerstyleguitar.rocks

With the CAGED system for major chords you can play any major chord in five different positions on the guitar fretboard.

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CAGED minor chord shapes | fingerstyleguitar.rocks

With the CAGED system for minor chords you can play any minor chord in five different positions on the guitar fretboard.

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CAGED (dominant) seventh chord shapes | fingerstyleguitar.rocks

With the CAGED system for (dominant) seventh chords you can play any seventh chord in five different positions on the guitar fretboard.

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[TSJMajesty]

Are there easier ways to play the G form and D form of CAGED?

The one fret stretch is a bit too much at times with 4 fingers.

Somebody mentioned it can be simpler but can’t find it

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[metropolis_4]

This is where CAGED always seemed a little weird to me. It seems too arbitrarily bound to open chord shapes. I think D and A are redundant. C E G covers everything, but I guess it doesn’t sound as catchy.

Or you can get the same effect by learning how to find the intervals of a 3rd, 5th, and octave across the strings. Once you know those you can find the patterns for chords all across the fretboard without CAGED

 

[Eagle]

This is where CAGED always seemed a little weird to me. It seems too arbitrarily bound to open chord shapes. I think D and A are redundant. C E G covers everything, but I guess it doesn’t sound as catchy.

Or you can get the same effect by learning how to find the intervals of a 3rd, 5th, and octave across the strings. Once you know those you can find the patterns for chords all across the fretboard without CAGED

I only use caged visually and for triads. I play three notes per string mostly. It’s good to fall back on it though and it’s conceptually very easy to do.

 

[la szum]

This is where CAGED always seemed a little weird to me. It seems too arbitrarily bound to open chord shapes. I think D and A are redundant. C E G covers everything, but I guess it doesn’t sound as catchy.

Or you can get the same effect by learning how to find the intervals of a 3rd, 5th, and octave across the strings. Once you know those you can find the patterns for chords all across the fretboard without CAGED

"If you meet the Buddha on the road to enlightenment kill him."

That was for Buddhists who get too hung on methods and a specific form of teaching.
At some point, the method needs to be put out to pasture, because it becomes a limitation.

Also, CAGED is so Nashville-centric it ain't funny. Not that it is not useful. It can be. It's
just, like you intimate, locked into one form of chordal visualization and execution.

 

[metropolis_4]

"If you meet the Buddha on the road to enlightenment kill him."

That was for Buddhists who get too hung on methods and a specific form of teaching.
At some point, the method needs to be put out to pasture, because it becomes a limitation.

Also, CAGED is so Nashville-centric it ain't funny. Not that it is not useful. It can be. It's
just, like you intimate, locked into one form of chordal visualization and execution.

100%. It’s something that might be helpful to reach the goal, but it isn’t the goal itself.

 

[la szum]

"If you meet a cyclist on the road to enlightenment don't kill 'em."

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

When moving the D shape, just play the 4 middle strings only. Or, play the low E string with your ring finger (sorry, 2nd finger; didn't have a guitar in my hand), let that finger mute the A string, and play the D, G, & B strings.
For the G, just play the top 4 strings. Or just the middle 4 strings.

Trying to get more than 4 notes on those 2 shapes is pretty much useless, and not worth the effort.

So with the G shape you just don’t fully bar it?

And with the D shape, you mean you let go of the high E string?

 

[Eagle]

So with the G shape you just don’t fully bar it?

And with the D shape, you mean you let go of the high E string?

You would simply never play an all 6 string G shape major chord in practice . You may use part but it’s a theoretical thing in this case. The D shape is not used much in its major form either.

 

[mercifulfuzziness]

You would simply never play an all 6 string G shape major chord in practice . You may use part but it’s a theoretical thing in this case. The D shape is not used much in its major form either.

But doesn’t the G then becomes more like a power chord?

makes sense that it isn’t used much. Seems weird to go there quickly

 

[Eagle]

But doesn’t the G then becomes more like a power chord?

makes sense that it isn’t used much. Seems weird to go there quickly

No but you see rock players use the top on an open A . Remember caged is a fretboard visualisation tool. The point is you know where all the inversions are not that you use the major chord shapes . It is more about modal shapes and arpeggios across the whole neck. Don’t over complicate it, the point is it’s very easy. It’s about playing through changes in the same area of the neck or playing the whole neck on one chord.

 

[TSJMajesty]

So with the G shape you just don’t fully bar it?

Correct.

And with the D shape, you mean you let go of the high E string?

My pinky pretty much always mutes the high e string as it holds the top note. So I'm not exactly "letting it go."

 

[FuzzyAce]

No but you see rock players use the top on an open A . Remember caged is a fretboard visualisation tool. The point is you know where all the inversions are not that you use the major chord shapes . It is more about modal shapes and arpeggios across the whole neck. Don’t over complicate it, the point is it’s very easy. It’s about playing through changes in the same area of the neck or playing the whole neck on one chord.

CAGED was something I figured out naturally to be honest. Same with voice leading. I never even knew the terms till years later.