What are you GAS'ing for at the moment ?

Ah, didn't know that. I'm not much of a LP guy.

I haven’t had one in decades but back in 70s and early 80s it was nothing but Paul’s, Vs, Explorers, Firebirds for me.
I think I didn’t get into Strats until like 84.

I've become a Gibson design fan in 1991 with my first one, an SG, and basically never moved away from Gibson since then.
Had a strat and and a telly during the years but in the end I've become an 100% Les Paul guy.
 
I've become a Gibson design fan in 1991 with my first one, an SG, and basically never moved away from Gibson since then.
Had a strat and and a telly during the years but in the end I've become an 100% Les Paul guy.

I actually never got friends with the LP shape. I just love arm and belly shapes. Which is why I'm (at least almost) perfectly happy with my new toy (PRS DGT SE), which is like a happy medium between Strat alike accessibility and LP alike sound options.
 
I actually never got friends with the LP shape. I just love arm and belly shapes. Which is why I'm (at least almost) perfectly happy with my new toy (PRS DGT SE), which is like a happy medium between Strat alike accessibility and LP alike sound options.
I love single cut guitars, my Baker B3 is more like a PRS than my PRS SC245 lol
 
I've become a Gibson design fan in 1991 with my first one, an SG, and basically never moved away from Gibson since then.
Had a strat and and a telly during the years but in the end I've become an 100% Les Paul guy.
I keep thinking I should have a Paul again but PRS245 and Tyler M1 cover that well enough.
 
I’ve had 8 different Les Pauls over the years. 2 Heritage, 5 Gibsons and 1 Epiphone (which is now with one of my cousins kids as he’s learning to play). I started as a Les Paul guy. First guitar was a 94 Studo I saved up money for and put in layaway until I could pay it off. That was back in 97. I have an R7 with the ABR-1 bridge. Everything else has a Nashville style modern tune o matic. That R7 is set up just like your R9 bridge wise and it’s always intonated right every time. If you’re worried about it falling off, tone pros makes locking ABR-1 bridges. I have their locking modern tuneomatic on my H157 and it’s awesome. Just two small hex set screws hold it in place against the posts. That guitar came stock with that bridge and locking tailpiece.

Speaking of GAS, I find myself looking for another Standard or Traditional. I currently have one Les Paul style guitar with a figured top but it’s a darker finish and (black to blue burst Heritage H-150) and I find myself missing my old 2004 Standard in Cherry Sunburst. So I think I’ll be going that route possibly in the new year.
 
Only in modern Les Pauls but this is a 1959 historic reissue model.

All custom shop reissues have the screws on the other side like the old bridges had

Also some non custom shop models, like the 50s and 60s standard, have this type of bridge.

This bridge type is called ABR-1



Man, your Les Paul has nothing wrong, trust me. You convinced yourself the bridge is upside-down but it is not. Not at all.

Wasn't me convincing myself, was others, but thanks so much for the information...It was messing with my head I must admit.
The bridge falling when changing strings is 100% normal because all TOM bridges are that way. Both stop tail and bridge are not fixed, they are kept in place by the strings tension.

Yep, lesson learned....
Next time change one string at the time and you'll be fine.

Keeping an R9 in the closet for these reasons is crazy, man. Crazy.

All that took to check if the bridge was ok was to find a picture of an R9 on an online shop or Gibson website or go into a shop a see by yourself.

:wat

Thanks again, maybe I'll pull her back out....Its going to take some time to get used to it, I play Tele's and Strat's....
 
Wasn't me convincing myself, was others, but thanks so much for the information...It was messing with my head I must admit.


Yep, lesson learned....


Thanks again, maybe I'll pull her back out....Its going to take some time to get used to it, I play Tele's and Strat's....

That's the way. Being your LP an historic reissues, chances she's a very good LP are really high.
 
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That's the way. Being your LP an historic reissues, chances she's a very good LP are really high.

I had planned to buy a normal Les Paul and tried quite a few, they all played nice.. The guy at the counter recommended that I try the R9 he had in the used section— it was amazing… I didn’t plan to spend so much money, but it was a huge step up from the other Les Pauls, I figured what the hell..

Shame it’s been waisting away all these years. Now that I know the bridge is OK (thanks all) I’ll pull her out and give her a try..

Thanks again! I’ve been on a few forums, even created an account on a Les Paul forum and nobody knew the bridge is supposed to be this way with the reissues… crazy! Love this place, you guys know these guitars better than the LP forum does! (As well as many luthiers I know)

I also took a lot of “heat” thanks for not beating me up..(I got slapped around a lot asking questions) “This idiot bought an R9 and his bridge is backwards” ,, stuff like that…All I did was post a few pics and my beatings began.. I’m just a Fender guy that thought I’d try a Les Paul..(40 years playing Fenders, love them)
 
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I also took a lot of “heat” thanks for not beating me up..(I got slapped around a lot asking questions) “This idiot bought an R9 and his bridge is backwards” ,, stuff like that…All I did was post a few pics and my beatings began..
Fuck those people! I've been playing guitar for 47 years, and last night the neck on one of my guitars was showing too much relief.

I can never remember which way to turn the truss rod adjuster, so I loosened it until I could turn it by hand, and the relief was still there. So I left it, thinking something was wrong with it, and I'd just have to live with a little more relief than I wanted. Guitar played fine, but it prevented me from lowering my action to where I wanted it.

Later on I thought, lemme try tightening it instead. In my mind I couldn't picture how that would lessen the relief, but it did.

So, it doesn't matter. Yeah, after all these years, I should know which way to turn the truss rod adjuster, but I didn't. Oh well.
 
Glad I am not a spade rider too, I have gas issues enough as a keyplayer already. When Roland released the TR1000 drum machine I had a heavy attack, but eventually had to realze it was nonsense. I would not use any generators apart from my own percussion samples. However, gas was invoked and just had to find a replacement. I ended up spending about 1470 € on a MPC X SE and a Yamaha RS7000 instead. One machine was not enough. Fortunately no regrets so far. They are wonderful daw alternatives to me, and I can easily bend them to my will. Very inspiring. Sometimes gas has brought me things I had to sell with loss shortly after, and that is a pain, feels like I am a shopaholic. But all good for now.
 
I had planned to buy a normal Les Paul and tried quite a few, they all played nice.. The guy at the counter recommended that I try the R9 he had in the used section— it was amazing… I didn’t plan to spend so much money, but it was a huge step up from the other Les Pauls, I figured what the hell..

Shame it’s been waisting away all these years. Now that I know the bridge is OK (thanks all) I’ll pull her out and give her a try..

Thanks again! I’ve been on a few forums, even created an account on a Les Paul forum and nobody knew the bridge is supposed to be this way with the reissues… crazy! Love this place, you guys know these guitars better than the LP forum does! (As well as many luthiers I know)

I also took a lot of “heat” thanks for not beating me up..(I got slapped around a lot asking questions) “This idiot bought an R9 and his bridge is backwards” ,, stuff like that…All I did was post a few pics and my beatings began.. I’m just a Fender guy that thought I’d try a Les Paul..(40 years playing Fenders, love them)

Fuck those dickheads.
You're in the right place, here.
 
Fuck those people! I've been playing guitar for 47 years, and last night the neck on one of my guitars was showing too much relief.

I can never remember which way to turn the truss rod adjuster, so I loosened it until I could turn it by hand, and the relief was still there. So I left it, thinking something was wrong with it, and I'd just have to live with a little more relief than I wanted. Guitar played fine, but it prevented me from lowering my action to where I wanted it.

Later on I thought, lemme try tightening it instead. In my mind I couldn't picture how that would lessen the relief, but it did.

So, it doesn't matter. Yeah, after all these years, I should know which way to turn the truss rod adjuster, but I didn't. Oh well.

Love it man, thanks for the kind comments..

I like your story, not all of us are wanna be luthiers, some of us just like to play guitar ---- ( I would NEVER touch a truss rod, I'll leave that to people that know what their doing...) Kudo's for trying though, you have more guts than me...
 
Fuck those people! I've been playing guitar for 47 years, and last night the neck on one of my guitars was showing too much relief.

I can never remember which way to turn the truss rod adjuster, so I loosened it until I could turn it by hand, and the relief was still there. So I left it, thinking something was wrong with it, and I'd just have to live with a little more relief than I wanted. Guitar played fine, but it prevented me from lowering my action to where I wanted it.

Later on I thought, lemme try tightening it instead. In my mind I couldn't picture how that would lessen the relief, but it did.

So, it doesn't matter. Yeah, after all these years, I should know which way to turn the truss rod adjuster, but I didn't. Oh well.

Do I dare try and explain why? :getmycoat:knit:rofl
 
Spread the knowledge please!

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Tension works both ways on a guitar neck. The tension of the strings pull on the neck.
The relative tension of the truss rod counteracts that tension, so the guitar neck doesn't go SNAP!

Loosening the truss rod brings in more relief, and the strings pull more on the neck to give that
bowed relief shape. Tightening the truss rod makes the neck stiffer, and offsets the tension
of the strings to diminish relief and make the neck straighter.... or even convex.

This is why when you put on strings with more tension, or when wood shrinks in lower humidity,
you may see more relief and have to tighten the truss rod. Oppositely, that means we have to
loosen the truss rod with more humidity and the wood expands, or when we use lighter strings
that offer less tension.
 
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