If a guy wanted to get into Synergy mods...

[JiveTurkey]

I actually think the SYN2 went up in price, because when I bought it, it was $799 I thought.

Its a brilliant form factor at 1U, maybe they know that we know that.

1u, 48" deep

 

[Iron1]

Would be killer to see something the size of the SYN50 that holds 4 modules.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Would be killer to see something the size of the SYN50 that holds 4 modules.

Load it up with 4 IIC models and give it to your guitarist

 

[Whizzinby]

Would be killer to see something the size of the SYN50 that holds 4 modules.

From your lips to Gods ears.

And 100 watt. With a Simple clean.

 

[aivoryuk]

IMO they should aim to make SYN2 a helluva lot cheaper. 959 € w/ VAT is ridiculous for a rack box with the hardware to connect two modules.

It should be one of those things you buy because you have a pile of modules and would like to use them easily rather than swapping them all the time. Thus you get a cheap-ish SYN2 and slap them in it. Gives people more incentive to buy more modules.

Or they include a module with the purchase of it.
The initial outlay is what probably puts people off.

 

[Iron1]

Or they include a module with the purchase of it.
The initial outlay is what probably puts people off.

That would definitely be enticing. I was eyeballing a used deal where ya got a Syn20 and SLO module for about a grand. Someone else grabbed it, but it was calling my name.

 

[laxu]

Or they include a module with the purchase of it.
The initial outlay is what probably puts people off.

Which then probably leads to "well can't I just buy the SYN2 for less?"

Now that I think of it, Synergy should totally offer bundle deals. Maybe you save a tiny bit over buying them individually.

 

[Elric]

From your lips to Gods ears.

And 100 watt. With a Simple clean.

That would be a pretty epic product. Agree that if they do another head they should try to cram a clean channel in if possible, that way you don't sacrifice a slot on some module for cleans if mostly want dirt variations.

But then again: The old RM100 had three slots and according to a quick google search someone on the MTS forum said it is 11x11x31 at 73lbs with three modules...

The Syn site lists the 50 as 10x10x25.25" at 42lbs

So I'd have to wonder how big and costly a decked out 100W would run which might limit its market.

Right now, I guess I don't care too much as I have 2x Syn2s + the 100W KSR. So I have virtual 4 slot 100W Syn rig already built. Being a consolidated head is not a huge selling point for me personally but can understand why others may want that.

I don't really expect them to price the Syn2 downward, more likely they may build a new version with more stuff and price it up some if they add the digital back end stuff to it some how (not sure how as crammed as that thing is both front and back).

 

[aivoryuk]

Now that I think of it, Synergy should totally offer bundle deals. Maybe you save a tiny bit over buying them individually.

Well they have certainly done that with IR20.

 

[Whizzinby]

That would be a pretty epic product. Agree that if they do another head they should try to cram a clean channel in if possible, that way you don't sacrifice a slot on some module for cleans if mostly want dirt variations.

But then again: The old RM100 had three slots and according to a quick google search someone on the MTS forum said it is 11x11x31 at 73lbs with three modules...

The Syn site lists the 50 as 10x10x25.25" at 42lbs

So I'd have to wonder how big and costly a decked out 100W would run which might limit its market.

I almost think at this point that the only way they could really do the big watt amp right would be to ignore a section of the market. I mean, there are dudes in the D&M sub that think the AxeFx is too big for home use. I’d imagine the dudes that would be desirous of an uber-Syn-head aren’t the dudes weighing dental floss before adding it to their hiking pack. (And oddly enough, heads seem to be rapidly becoming a home thing vs live, almost kind of flipping roles with digital)

Having done the portable lunchbox head, I’d hope they’d be free to go wild with the big head, but I agree, the market for that sort of thing may be rapidly shrinking.

 

[CorrosiveMatter]

That would definitely be enticing. I was eyeballing a used deal where ya got a Syn20 and SLO module for about a grand. Someone else grabbed it, but it was calling my name.

One on my local FB with 2 modules for $1k currently.

 

[Iron1]

One on my local FB with 2 modules for $1k currently.

That’s an awesome deal. What modules?

 

[Warmart]

I'm thinking of trying a SYN-1 or SYN-20IR with my PS-2A and QC 4cm. But it seems a good time to wait, as I suspect (as many do), that there's something new on the horizon.

Have had my Laney Ironheart 60 for 6 months (only current amp), and it's been great until I got back into Viking Metal, lmao. I cannot get a really saturated high gain tone that doesn't sound like ass. When at the point of, "close as I can get", there's also a metric crap-ton of noise that no combination of noise gates and gain staging can remove.

So I've been mostly using my QC, swapping between a 6505, Bogner Uber or Nameless into my monitors and sometimes into my PS-2A 4cm.

 

[CorrosiveMatter]

That’s an awesome deal. What modules?

It sold but it was with the VH4. Not 2 of them sorry.

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[la szum]

It's that freaking up front cost of entry----and then $400 a pop for every preamp module.

I'd stick to my modeler/capture device and hone in a better power amp/cab option, or options.

 

[la szum]

One on my local FB with 2 modules for $1k currently.

That 20 watt power turd section isn't going to do any heavy lifting to make the heavy modules
come to life. I. Don't. Get. It. The majourity of heavy ass tones need some serious power amp
Oooomph to come to life. And I love low-wattage amps. Just not for the heavies.

 

[CorrosiveMatter]

That 20 watt power turd section isn't going to do any heavy lifting to make the heavy modules
come to life. I. Don't. Get. It. The majourity of heavy ass tones need some serious power amp
Oooomph to come to life. And I love low-wattage amps. Just not for the heavies.

Matters where you are playing IMHO, I only play at home and I don't turn it up to any volume that it would start farting out at.
I have the 20-IR and at home lvls it's great sounding, if I needed more I would go for the 50 or send it through a bigger power amp for sure but I am never playing even at half volume on it.

In my opinion these small amps can sound great until you hit your headroom limits, they come alive just fine to my ears.

 

[Elric]

That 20 watt power turd section isn't going to do any heavy lifting to make the heavy modules
come to life. I. Don't. Get. It. The majourity of heavy ass tones need some serious power amp
Oooomph to come to life. And I love low-wattage amps. Just not for the heavies.

If only there was some way to use the modules with a power section of your own choosing. We can dream I guess.

 

[aivoryuk]

I'm thinking of trying a SYN-1 or SYN-20IR with my PS-2A and QC 4cm. But it seems a good time to wait, as I suspect (as many do), that there's something new on the horizon.

Have had my Laney Ironheart 60 for 6 months (only current amp), and it's been great until I got back into Viking Metal, lmao. I cannot get a really saturated high gain tone that doesn't sound like ass. When at the point of, "close as I can get", there's also a metric crap-ton of noise that no combination of noise gates and gain staging can remove.

So I've been mostly using my QC, swapping between a 6505, Bogner Uber or Nameless into my monitors and sometimes into my PS-2A 4cm.

I have a syn1 and ps2 using self attenuation going into my fractal for dynacab and post processing - sounds great

 

[Genghis]

It's that freaking up front cost of entry----and then $400 a pop for every preamp module.

I'd stick to my modeler/capture device and hone in a better power amp/cab option, or options.

I thought the same and sold my first Synergy setup to just use my Axe-FX and am really glad to be back to using real amps. Was planning on using the Axe-FX alone for a recent show at a place with limited stage area, but my bass player showed up for rehearsal when I was finishing up dialing in a patch and said “That’s not your usual tone!” I still tried to use it for practice and only made it through about the first verse of one song before I fired up an amp.

I say go for the Synergy setup. Life is to short to compromise.