What’s your unpopular guitar take?

[Sascha Franck]

Bigsby trems are utter shit and Victorian farming tools should not be screwed to a guitar no matter how much you think Duesenberg are good.

The Duesenberg vibratos are excellent.

 

[Sascha Franck]

An absolute kimg

No idea what a kimg is, but in case it's describing someone who stopped improving on anything 50 years ago, I agree.

 

[bucephalus]

Gibson guitars are dope and the QC complaints are largely overblown internet stuff

This 100 percent.

 

[Eagle]

This 100 percent.

Nope they are the sloppiest built high end guitars available by a long margin. It’s not QC it’s the process they use. They are great musical instruments but I can point out faults on all examples that you just don’t find on anything else comparable.

 

[bucephalus]

Nope they are the sloppiest built high end guitars available by a long margin. It’s not QC it’s the process they use. They are great musical instruments but I can point out faults on all examples that you just don’t find on anything else comparable.

Hehe, I knew that would draw you out. Like saying Betelgeuse too many times

 

[Eagle]

Hehe, I knew that would draw you out. Like saying Betelgeuse too many times

Or in this case “bullshit” too many times. Facts are facts even when you don’t like them.

 

[ChordInversion]

The only thing that matters is what you like. Every assertion by every d-bag on the Internet of one thing being 'superior' to the others isn't worth a thing. If you like it, you're all set. Talking gear online is fun and interesting when framed as an opportunity to see what other people are using and (importantly) how they are using it. It provides some starting off points for trying things out to see if you like them. Talking gear online is almost always a waste of time when attempting to establish universal truth.

Along those lines, there's no reason to argue with people who don't like the gear that you like. Sure, it's mildly annoying when a piece of gear that you know works great is the subject of the most recent fad of connoisseur signaling. But they don't matter, and they'll never, ever listen.

You are right to like your modeler, amp, pedal, or guitar - even if I tried them and hated them.

X, Y, and Z may or may not matter when it comes to how a guitar sounds. I see no value in debating it one way or the other. None of it changes the fact that you don't know how the guitar sounds until you plug it in and play it. Then you decide whether you like it or not.

There's nothing wrong with accumulating gear so long as doing so isn't financially kicking your ass. This notion that a guitar that isn't being played every day is some sort of injustice is absurd.

"Branding" is possibly the dumbest incredibly powerful force in modern civilization. Though it does have plenty of competition for that title, so maybe I'm overstating it. A little.

 

[Snags]

Strats are for paedos.

 

[laxu]

The only thing that matters is what you like. Every assertion by every d-bag on the Internet of one thing being 'superior' to the others isn't worth a thing. If you like it, you're all set. Talking gear online is fun and interesting when framed as an opportunity to see what other people are using and (importantly) how they are using it. It provides some starting off points for trying things out to see if you like them. Talking gear online is almost always a waste of time when attempting to establish universal truth.

You can like something and still consider it to have objectively poor execution in some areas.

• Tune-o-matic is a crap bridge design. Complicated to install (needs neck angle, angling the bridge, tailpiece), low intonation range, no per-string height adjustment. I still own several TOM guitars that I love.
• Fender block heel is a stupid remnant from the past. I still have a 1996 G&L Legacy with a block heel that I love. Even has the dreaded 3-screw neck joint too, which turns out wasn't a real issue...it's just that those 1970s/1980s Fenders were poorly made.
• Gibson refusing to bring back a volute to strengthen their necks is bullshit. Doesn't stop many from liking those guitars.
• Don't even get me started on the Jazzmaster. The rhythm circuit sucks with its unusable tone control, and the stock bridge needs 11 gauge strings to work properly. Still think it's a lovely sounding, super cool looking guitar.

 

[Mikael Dez]

You have to practice with an amp to get better at playing with an amp, but if you can’t make your electric guitar sound good unplugged you probably have some work to do that the amp can’t help with.

 

[spawnofthesith]

This 100 percent.

Nope they are the sloppiest built high end guitars available by a long margin. It’s not QC it’s the process they use. They are great musical instruments but I can point out faults on all examples that you just don’t find on anything else comparable.

Supposedly I somehow miraculously have the only LP on the planet without any tooling marks on the freatboard

 

[Jarick]

I have a few...

• Most digital modelers are still too damn complicated and should strive to be as simple to use as a real amp
• Home players are extremely underserved in the guitar space, especially when it comes to monitoring solutions
• Gear forums are fun but completely emphasize the wrong things about playing guitar

 

[Eagle]

Supposedly I somehow miraculously have the only LP on the planet without any tooling marks on the freatboard

I will find some.

 

[gearJunkie]

I will find some.

Eagle eyes

 

[ChordInversion]

You can like something and still consider it to have objectively poor execution in some areas.

• Tune-o-matic is a crap bridge design. Complicated to install (needs neck angle, angling the bridge, tailpiece), low intonation range, no per-string height adjustment. I still own several TOM guitars that I love.
• Fender block heel is a stupid remnant from the past. I still have a 1996 G&L Legacy with a block heel that I love. Even has the dreaded 3-screw neck joint too, which turns out wasn't a real issue...it's just that those 1970s/1980s Fenders were poorly made.
• Gibson refusing to bring back a volute to strengthen their necks is bullshit. Doesn't stop many from liking those guitars.
• Don't even get me started on the Jazzmaster. The rhythm circuit sucks with its unusable tone control, and the stock bridge needs 11 gauge strings to work properly. Still think it's a lovely sounding, super cool looking guitar.

My point is simply that whether you like it or not is the only relevant point. Me or your anyone else talking about the Tune-O-Matic (which I also dislike) or any other facet sucking is neither going to make me less likely to buy a guitar with one nor change its utility. And based on decades worth of data points, it also isn't going to change what the manufacturers produce.

I'm not saying nobody should be allowed to talk about it. I just don't care, and I see nothing to 'debate' about. It's useless for me to know your (or anyone else's) assertion on Jazzmasters, for instance, because 1) I might not agree, and arguing will lead nowhere and 2) reading it tells me nothing I can't assess on my own with a Jazzmaster.

People like to shoot the shit. That's fine and generally fun. But what actually matters is what each of us likes all on our own without reading what we're supposed to view as 'superior.'

 

[ChordInversion]

Here's another one: Pedalboards take brilliantly compact, lightweight, and fun devices and turn them into a gigantic pain in the ass. Just using a couple of pedals running on 9 volt batteries is an underappreciated joy.

 

[Jarick]

Here's another one: Pedalboards take brilliantly compact, lightweight, and fun devices and turn them into a gigantic pain in the ass. Just using a couple of pedals running on 9 volt batteries is an underappreciated joy.

Or a basic pedalboard that runs off a OneSpot daisy chain.

 

[Mooselake]

I have a few...

• Home players are extremely underserved in the guitar space, especially when it comes to monitoring solutions ...

I agree with this one. I'm still using my OG THR 10c as a poor many FRFR, and it works okay, but it's been 13 years. Admittedly it's not an easy problem to solve--something small and quiet but that sounds big and loud, except quietly. And I love stereo when I'm just playing with nothing else going on, so it would really need separate speakers. And I'd like it to be inexpensive. :)

 

[Eagle]

The only thing that matters is what you like. Every assertion by every d-bag on the Internet of one thing being 'superior' to the others isn't worth a thing. If you like it, you're all set. Talking gear online is fun and interesting when framed as an opportunity to see what other people are using and (importantly) how they are using it. It provides some starting off points for trying things out to see if you like them. Talking gear online is almost always a waste of time when attempting to establish universal truth.

Along those lines, there's no reason to argue with people who don't like the gear that you like. Sure, it's mildly annoying when a piece of gear that you know works great is the subject of the most recent fad of connoisseur signaling. But they don't matter, and they'll never, ever listen.

You are right to like your modeler, amp, pedal, or guitar - even if I tried them and hated them.

X, Y, and Z may or may not matter when it comes to how a guitar sounds. I see no value in debating it one way or the other. None of it changes the fact that you don't know how the guitar sounds until you plug it in and play it. Then you decide whether you like it or not.

There's nothing wrong with accumulating gear so long as doing so isn't financially kicking your ass. This notion that a guitar that isn't being played every day is some sort of injustice is absurd.

"Branding" is possibly the dumbest incredibly powerful force in modern civilization. Though it does have plenty of competition for that title, so maybe I'm overstating it. A little.

Of course the only thing that matters is what you like but don’t make claims about it that are false.
It’s a simple point.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Gibson guitars are dope and the QC complaints are largely overblown internet stuff

This 100 percent.

Nope they are the sloppiest built high end guitars available by a long margin. It’s not QC it’s the process they use. They are great musical instruments but I can point out faults on all examples that you just don’t find on anything else comparable.

What am I missing here, this is literally 3 people (vaguely) agreeing with each other…… “it’s not QC”