What’s the Japanese LP hierarchy?

EOengineer said:
Jesus dude you are on a roll between this and the MKV. Japanese stuff from the 80s can be some of the best there is. That guitar is gonna sound massive through that amp.
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I'm just a bit worried about authenticity. The headstock logos look a bit.. odd??

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Maybe I'm being a bit dumb, but I don't understand the shading outlines around these areas. It looks a bit sus to me ???
 
Orvillain said:
From what little I can see in the photos, they look okay. I will check it out properly before I take it away with me of course. Then a trip to Feline at some point to get it sexed up!
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Good luck sir, I hope it's awesome.

I sent a message to Kurosawa Gakki this morning about a LP shaped guitar. The auto response said their international sales team was closed to 4th Jan, so fingers crossed they still have it when they come back to me.

I couldn't sleep last night, was browsing KG about 3am and had an "It will be mine" moment. I wasn't planning on ordering a new LP until later in Jan but didn't want to lose this one.

Mine will be going to Jonathan too ( if I get it) for an Earvana nut and to check the fretwork.
 
I was able to track down this link through Facebook:
www.yeahmansguitars.com

1989 Orville by Gibson Les Paul Custom lefty ebony

1989 Orville by Gibson Les Paul Custom lefty, ebony. Made in Japan, serial number G897140. This guitar is 100% original except for a Gotoh bridge and a real Gibson truss rod cover. Had a recent refret and plays wonderfully. Very rare left handed model with factory installed Gibson USA pickups...
www.yeahmansguitars.com www.yeahmansguitars.com

It has the same serial!
 
Damn that thing looks amazing! It's almost cooler that it's an 80's Japanese LPC, more rare, especially left handed. Vibe for years.

I would totally put double black pickups in there, maybe with gold screws.

A 9 pound Custom seems light!
 
Orvillain said:
I was able to track down this link through Facebook:
www.yeahmansguitars.com

1989 Orville by Gibson Les Paul Custom lefty ebony

1989 Orville by Gibson Les Paul Custom lefty, ebony. Made in Japan, serial number G897140. This guitar is 100% original except for a Gotoh bridge and a real Gibson truss rod cover. Had a recent refret and plays wonderfully. Very rare left handed model with factory installed Gibson USA pickups...
www.yeahmansguitars.com www.yeahmansguitars.com

It has the same serial!
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Fairly recent refret and bang on 9lbs. Excellent score dude.
 
Also nobody's asking me but I'd totally try a pair of Dimarzio 36th PAF's in there for starters. Alnico 5, hot bridge, medium neck, spacers for a a little more dynamics, dirt cheap, tons of color options. I feel like those would be great for all around rock pickups in a LPC.
 
Orvillain said:
I'm just a bit worried about authenticity. The headstock logos look a bit.. odd??

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Maybe I'm being a bit dumb, but I don't understand the shading outlines around these areas. It looks a bit sus to me ???
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Are fake-fake GIbsons a thing? I'd think the margin and time-to-sell would make it hard to justify.

I had a Terada-made Gretsch 6120 from 2004 in here for a hot minute and that guitar was a BEAST in terms of fit/finish, even with all the country-and-western inlay absurdity. If this thing is that level of construction, you done good. :beer
 
Boudoir Guitar said:
If this thing is that level of construction, you done good. :beer
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My ObG that I have is one of the best guitars I've played. Will easily compete with a "proper" Gibson LPC.

My Tokai is great too. TBH, the worst LP I tried in the last year or so was an Epiphone. I tried their LPC, and it just felt cheap and nasty in my hands. Very sticky playing feel, frets felt plasticky and just overall quite naff.
 
Jarick said:
Also nobody's asking me but I'd totally try a pair of Dimarzio 36th PAF's in there for starters. Alnico 5, hot bridge, medium neck, spacers for a a little more dynamics, dirt cheap, tons of color options. I feel like those would be great for all around rock pickups in a LPC.
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I was thinking of trying out some Tom Anderson pickups, ala Billy Howerdel.
 
Orvillain said:
My ObG that I have is one of the best guitars I've played. Will easily compete with a "proper" Gibson LPC.

My Tokai is great too. TBH, the worst LP I tried in the last year or so was an Epiphone. I tried their LPC, and it just felt cheap and nasty in my hands. Very sticky playing feel, frets felt plasticky and just overall quite naff.
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The Epiphones I've played at GC (i.e., straight out of the box without any attention), do feel pretty gross - its the odd situation where the longer they've been hanging on the wall the better they feel because the frets at least have been played enough to have whatever is coating them from factory worn off, but still need even just a spit-polish with a t-shirt to not feel scratchy-gross.

After that, aside form the very plastic finish, I find they play great and, assuming the electronics work (a big assumption, from my experience) sound great. A friend had one of the ~$1300 1959 ES-355s after he'd had it set up. Played great. Looked and felt like a D'Angelico at best. Nobody would mistake it for a Gibson even with the proper headstock.
 
Jarick said:
Oh that's pretty sweet too. I never tried those but they look neat. Didn't Billy's guitar have a horrific headstock break or something before he got it?
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Yeah I think the story is, he was teching for NiN back in the day and at the end of the tour they offered him any guitar, and he took the broken one and had it re-attached. Apparently doesn't have the correct angle, but fuck it who cares!
 
Orvillain said:
Yeah I think the story is, he was teching for NiN back in the day and at the end of the tour they offered him any guitar, and he took the broken one and had it re-attached. Apparently doesn't have the correct angle, but fuck it who cares!
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Me: "these knobs don't look right, I'm going to get some that are a slightly different shade of white"

Rock star: "yeah the headstock got broken off so I glued one from a different guitar on and it's close enough for stadium tours and platinum records"
 
Boudoir Guitar said:
The Epiphones I've played at GC (i.e., straight out of the box without any attention), do feel pretty gross - its the odd situation where the longer they've been hanging on the wall the better they feel because the frets at least have been played enough to have whatever is coating them from factory worn off, but still need even just a spit-polish with a t-shirt to not feel scratchy-gross.

After that, aside form the very plastic finish, I find they play great and, assuming the electronics work (a big assumption, from my experience) sound great. A friend had one of the ~$1300 1959 ES-355s after he'd had it set up. Played great. Looked and felt like a D'Angelico at best. Nobody would mistake it for a Gibson even with the proper headstock.
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Totally agree, I think if they just do the regular Gibson headstock and can tweak the finish so it doesn't seem so shiny, they would be killer. I have one of the Bonamassa 335's and it plays great and looks really good too. Doesn't seem like a cheap Epiphone to me.
 
I'm definitely not a fan epiphone using Indian laurel on their expensive models and the cheaper ones. It's hard to see where they justify some of the price increases for the expensive limited edition models.
 
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