Valeton GP-5

[2dor]

Really appreciate that, cheers. Have a gp5 on the way in and just starting to dip my toes into the NAM rabbit hole.

Which would you suggest to start with from yourself, I'm more to the clean and eob end of things. Have been using Tonex for a while but not NAM.

All my packs try to cover clean to mean settings (all but the Chupacabra lol and some of the very metal stuff like the Salvation Unnamed and Camerock).

You can try the Badlander packs since they have quite a lot of clean & blues/EoB profiles in them.

The PRS MT100 as well which has that OVERDRIVE (orange) channel spec-ed out to Mark Tremonti's actual Dumble amplifier.

The Marshall Modified 2203 JCM800 pack also has some EoB / clean stuff using the Low Sensitivity input.

And you might just love the PRS Archon Classic 50 pack I put out in summer - that one's a sleeper of an amp. Zach Wish has a great demo of it & some of the profiles in that pack were dialed in to match the settings he showcases in the vids.

Hope this helps.

 

[bucephalus]

All my packs try to cover clean to mean settings (all but the Chupacabra lol and some of the very metal stuff like the Salvation Unnamed and Camerock).

You can try the Badlander packs since they have quite a lot of clean & blues/EoB profiles in them.

The PRS MT100 as well which has that OVERDRIVE (orange) channel spec-ed out to Mark Tremonti's actual Dumble amplifier.

The Marshall Modified 2203 JCM800 pack also has some EoB / clean stuff using the Low Sensitivity input.

And you might just love the PRS Archon Classic 50 pack I put out in summer - that one's a sleeper of an amp. Zach Wish has a great demo of it & some of the profiles in that pack were dialed in to match the settings he showcases in the vids.

Hope this helps.

Super helpful, thanks

 

[2dor]

Super helpful, thanks

Anytime!

Since the Badlander pack was released last year, I publish an Excel list with all the knobs / settings for each profile in a pack.

The file is linked in the description of the pack (it's a Mega.nz link).

You can use that list to navigate the pack & zoom-in on the stuff you want; maybe you just want the Clean channel of an amp or going for a specific Youtuber demo vid settings since I list the inspiration for the profiles as well (I put a considerable amount of time into researching settings, reviews etc of an amp before I actually start reamping).

 

[bucephalus]

I'm finding a lot of nam stuff to be quite quiet, am I missing something here?

Also @2dor thanks for your stuff, trying out the archon using telecaster deluxe and the cleans are quite gritty. Is this due to humbuckers? And should I be using DI if going to power amp and cab?

 

[Chocol8]

I'm finding a lot of nam stuff to be quite quiet, am I missing something here?

Not just you, I think it is an issue with the way they are converting NAM files to run on the hardware.

 

[Los-D]

Any news on A2 NAM coming to the Valeton GP devices?

 

[Pipotron2000]

Until Valeton fix their conversion (in fact, a fast’n dirty recapture), I don’t see the point of adding a « better NAM » support.
If Valeton provided something like ANN sinco Mvave.
Or fixed their strange EQ curve.
But no new firmware coming. And the last one crashed some devices (1.0.6 if I remember well).
Gp-50 use the same engine than gp5.
So no cab with snaptone.

Good news : GP100 was updated recently.
And you can snaptone AND load cab
You can find them for less than 100 euros second hand.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Being able to use a capture AND an IR would be a huge leap forward for GP-5/50 users, even if they still "translated" the source NAM captures.

Any news on A2 NAM coming to the Valeton GP devices?

I'm actually not sure whether the CPU architecture of the GPs is even made to run NAM, regardless of the DSP demands. My bet would be "no".

 

[Pipotron2000]

They could disable some blocks to free IR cab one.
Or at least provide a SOFTWARE capture / recapture instead of stealth NAM loader.
You could add your own IR in the process, change learning signal, post set gain Eq …

M vave / sinco is doing that with their ANN format.
And Mooer too with Ge labs, for more than 5 years.

 

[DrewJD82]

I've got a couple hours in with the GP-5 now, still haven't read a single bit of documentation on the actual pedal from the manufacturer. At most I've read up on how to get NAM files into the Suite and onto the pedal, after that it's been 100% learning by pushing buttons to find out what happens.

Since I got this thing for free, my gripe/complaint department is basically closed as I had zero expectations or desires from this. Honestly, the free factor made me think it was basically a gumball machine/Temu-type product, but it is definitely not that.

Not knowing what the OG NAM caps sound like, I have no way of knowing what kind of degradation is occurring in the Snaptone conversion process. Every cap I snagged from @2dor on the Tone3000 site was pretty bangin'. I've got some guitar playing buddies who aren't up to date on the tech side of things, at best some have a surface level understanding of digital options but have no clue of the difference between modeling/profiling.

I sent this vid to a few last night saying "This is probably the craziest tech I've experienced in the guitar world yet; you can basically put a mic in front of an amp/cabinet and take a 'sonic picture' of it at those settings, then load it on this pedal and take it anywhere with you. You can also download other people's sonic pictures and in this case, someone captured the sound of one of Mick Mars' modded Marshalls from a video on Youtube and now I'm playing it through a poweramp and cabinet"



When phrased that way, which is technically what it is, that's fucking insane.

(the little audio dropouts are from the guitar's output jack, I gotta fix it)

 

[CorrosiveMatter]

I've got a couple hours in with the GP-5 now, still haven't read a single bit of documentation on the actual pedal from the manufacturer. At most I've read up on how to get NAM files into the Suite and onto the pedal, after that it's been 100% learning by pushing buttons to find out what happens.

Since I got this thing for free, my gripe/complaint department is basically closed as I had zero expectations or desires from this. Honestly, the free factor made me think it was basically a gumball machine/Temu-type product, but it is definitely not that.

Not knowing what the OG NAM caps sound like, I have no way of knowing what kind of degradation is occurring in the Snaptone conversion process. Every cap I snagged from @2dor on the Tone3000 site was pretty bangin'. I've got some guitar playing buddies who aren't up to date on the tech side of things, at best some have a surface level understanding of digital options but have no clue of the difference between modeling/profiling.

I sent this vid to a few last night saying "This is probably the craziest tech I've experienced in the guitar world yet; you can basically put a mic in front of an amp/cabinet and take a 'sonic picture' of it at those settings, then load it on this pedal and take it anywhere with you. You can also download other people's sonic pictures and in this case, someone captured the sound of one of Mick Mars' modded Marshalls from a video on Youtube and now I'm playing it through a poweramp and cabinet"



When phrased that way, which is technically what it is, that's fucking insane.

(the little audio dropouts are from the guitar's output jack, I gotta fix it)

The phone app is really easy and pretty good, works over bluetooth.

If you have a Mac the iPhone app also works over bluetooth on a Mac.

Still hoping they do an update to allow a NAM file and an IR instead of NAM full captures only, or I guess another device for IR loading.

 

[2dor]

I've got a couple hours in with the GP-5 now, still haven't read a single bit of documentation on the actual pedal from the manufacturer. At most I've read up on how to get NAM files into the Suite and onto the pedal, after that it's been 100% learning by pushing buttons to find out what happens.

Since I got this thing for free, my gripe/complaint department is basically closed as I had zero expectations or desires from this. Honestly, the free factor made me think it was basically a gumball machine/Temu-type product, but it is definitely not that.

Not knowing what the OG NAM caps sound like, I have no way of knowing what kind of degradation is occurring in the Snaptone conversion process. Every cap I snagged from @2dor on the Tone3000 site was pretty bangin'. I've got some guitar playing buddies who aren't up to date on the tech side of things, at best some have a surface level understanding of digital options but have no clue of the difference between modeling/profiling.

I sent this vid to a few last night saying "This is probably the craziest tech I've experienced in the guitar world yet; you can basically put a mic in front of an amp/cabinet and take a 'sonic picture' of it at those settings, then load it on this pedal and take it anywhere with you. You can also download other people's sonic pictures and in this case, someone captured the sound of one of Mick Mars' modded Marshalls from a video on Youtube and now I'm playing it through a poweramp and cabinet"



When phrased that way, which is technically what it is, that's fucking insane.

(the little audio dropouts are from the guitar's output jack, I gotta fix it)

Tones aside, man those are some nice chops

 

[Sascha Franck]

Still hoping they do an update to allow a NAM file and an IR instead of NAM full captures only

Given that even their bigger devices (such as the GP-200) don't allow for that, I wouldn't put too much hope into that.

 

[CorrosiveMatter]

Given that even their bigger devices (such as the GP-200) don't allow for that, I wouldn't put too much hope into that.

I don’t know where it came from but some people say Valeton said a future firmware update to do it was planned. I only saw that on the Facebook group from members though so could be BS.