TwoNotes GENOME!!!

[guillaume_pille]

Makes sense. Hopefully they can shift towards real cab loads, amp+load box is easier for anyone to do and is somewhat of a compromise in itself.

Well you're not wrong but it's not really feasible unless you limit the choice to a couple specific cabinets or if you offer amp modeling with the cabinet baked in (for example the cabinet that goes with the head supposedly). The same way you would do a capture of amp +cab with Kemper or NAM or QC, ending up in giving you no access whatsoever to any of the real world parameters.

To me it's not more of a compromise to use a defined load that we know on average will work VS using one cabinet (lets say a 4X12 closed back with V30) load that will have no more sense the minute you strap an IR of a 1X12 V30 open back. The number of combinations to capture to make sure it makes sense all the time would be, well, infinite. :)

So it's not just about how easy it is to work with (and yes it is easier not to have a screaming cabinet in a room) but more about the fact that with our library of 700+ dynIR we want to maintain the compatibility.

To finish on this, after doing cabinet captures for 20 years, we are often surprised about some amp + cab combinations that nobody could have think of and can make sense in the context of the specific sound you're searching for.

If the idea is to have the exact same sound you get with your real gear amp + cab + cabinet + microphone + micr preamp etc... doing a capture of everything at once is probably the safer bet.

 

[mikah912]

Thanks for getting in touch here. It is super cool to hear you are interested in a hardware version and I would love to collate some user feedback / ideas if you have any suggestions for what you would like to see! Please send them over!

He's not the only one interested in a hardware version of this. if you're open, I have a few suggestions of my own.

 

[Desertdweller]

So pleased to hear you are enjoying our TSM-Ai models; there is a combination of parametric captures and electrical modelling used to create our TSM-Ai amps and we're pretty stoked with the results since we first released the series. In terms of the high-end you are reffering to, have you checked out our guide on configuring your input level for GENOME? This might help but again, it could be indicative of the loads we use to capture the amps here at TNHQ.

https://helpdesk.two-notes.com/portal/en/kb/articles/calibrating-genome-s-input-your-audio-interface

I think the market is clamoring for a big US company to make a NAM loader with effects. No big companies are doing it. Genome loads your proprietary amps and NAM models. If you did this in a slick package, i.e. not a little black box with a 1985 Speak and Spell interface like the Opus, you could rule the planet with your product.

Just sayin.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I think the market is clamoring for a big US company to make a NAM loader with effects. No big companies are doing it. Genome loads your proprietary amps and NAM models. If you did this in a slick package, i.e. not a little black box with a 1985 Speak and Spell interface like the Opus, you could rule the planet with your product.

Just sayin.

What big US company is the market clamouring for?

Wasn’t Atomic literally the only US company dealing in NAM loading profiles.

I literally can only think of one big US company Line6 and since they’re now Yamaha owned I’m not sure that qualifies.
Or are you hoping Fender will?

 

[GTR37]

He's not the only one interested in a hardware version of this. if you're open, I have a few suggestions of my own.

Maybe we should make a thread Genome Hardware
What would you buy ?
I think the first question that’s going to get asked is cost
Should it be under 999 over 1000
Should it be all inclusive or only add the amps cabs and fx you want ?

 

[mikah912]

Maybe we should make a thread Genome Hardware
What would you buy ?
I think the first question that’s going to get asked is cost
Should it be under 999 over 1000
Should it be all inclusive or only add the amps cabs and fx you want ?

Cool. I'm doing it, but I would focus on features and form factor before considering cost.

If you asked people in 2014 if they'd spend $1500 for a flagship Line 6 amp modeler in the dying days of the $500 Pod HD era, the results were probably a little depressing. Once the product was announced, however......the rest is history.

 

[GTR37]

Cool. I'm doing it, but I would focus on features and form factor before considering cost.

If you asked people in 2014 if they'd spend $1500 for a flagship Line 6 amp modeler in the dying days of the $500 Pod HD era, the results were probably a little depressing. Once the product was announced, however......the rest is history.

For me at least size and layout Hotone is killing it
They do a lot of things right IMO
Something like the Stage
The GUI and graphics are already so good in the Genome putting that on a big Color screen would definitely have aesthetic appeal

 

[mikah912]

For me at least size and layout Hotone is killing it
They do a lot of things right IMO
Something like the Stage
The GUI and graphics are already so good in the Genome putting that on a big Color screen would definitely have aesthetic appeal

Added a new thread.

 

[Ross Davies]

Thanks for the clarification. I'm pretty sure it might be the load used to model the poweramp's response.
It's great to see Two Notes decided to publish that article - I know there was some initial skepticism about this topic but in the long run, it only helps enhance end-user experience.

Thanks for getting back to me. Yes indeed - it may have been the load response causing the difference here, although you should be able to match with a bit of surgical EQ. Actually something I do from time to time is add the exciter between and amp head and cab in GENOME - definitely worth a go! :)

 

[Ross Davies]

He's not the only one interested in a hardware version of this. if you're open, I have a few suggestions of my own.

Oh yes indeed! Please send them through and tag me in! We'd love to hear what you have in mind!

 

[Ross Davies]

I think the market is clamoring for a big US company to make a NAM loader with effects. No big companies are doing it. Genome loads your proprietary amps and NAM models. If you did this in a slick package, i.e. not a little black box with a 1985 Speak and Spell interface like the Opus, you could rule the planet with your product.

Just sayin.

Duly noted! Thanks for weighing in! :)

 

[Ross Davies]

Cool. I'm doing it, but I would focus on features and form factor before considering cost.

If you asked people in 2014 if they'd spend $1500 for a flagship Line 6 amp modeler in the dying days of the $500 Pod HD era, the results were probably a little depressing. Once the product was announced, however......the rest is history.

A wise choice indeed! For us, feature spec is paramount so let us know what you have in mind! :)

 

[Ross Davies]

@Ross Davies I think the PitchMix is bugged:

- if you run that module in the signal chain alone, Mix @ 100%, Pitch at -2 and tracking set to "Accurate Pitch", there's a weird Chorus / Reverb thing going on; I can confirm I have nothing else engaged in my signal chain

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The new amps though are pretty darn good though. That Diabolous & Snakebite50 really get the juices flowing. The Rampage is an absolute gain monster. The Samhain, while not as aggressive as the rest, feels great for some more classic stuff.

Nice work!

Thanks for bearing with me while I looked into this with the team. They have noted that this is not a traditional transposer but a pitch FX and the artefacts you are hearing are part of the effect. It is worth mentioning that although this can be used as a transposer, it is not a transparent transpose. Rest assured, we have a lot in the pipeline and you can be certain that if and when we release a dedicated transparent transposer, it will meet our exacting requirements / quality standards. Let me know if you need any more info and thanks again for raising this!

 

[guillaume_pille]

I think the market is clamoring for a big US company to make a NAM loader with effects. No big companies are doing it. Genome loads your proprietary amps and NAM models. If you did this in a slick package, i.e. not a little black box with a 1985 Speak and Spell interface like the Opus, you could rule the planet with your product.

Just sayin.

Thank you but I'm afraid we're neither big nor American ha ha. The screen on Opus is not the main user interface, it's the app but I do get your point. :)

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

I've downloaded the demo today and I'm actually quite impressed. I didn't expect Two Notes to have made such a big leap forward in terms of quality. The ‘Rampage’ model (ENGL Savage) sounds simply incredible.

Well done! @Ross Davies

 

[Progressive_disclosure]

I've downloaded the demo today and I'm actually quite impressed. I didn't expect Two Notes to have made such a big leap forward in terms of quality. The ‘Rampage’ model (ENGL Savage) sounds simply incredible.

Well done! @Ross Davies

Oh, nice! I haven’t had the time and energy to give Genome a spin yet. Have you tried the power amp sim in Genome with your ENGL preamp yet?

And if the Savage is good I’m even more tempted!

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

[...] Have you tried the power amp sim in Genome with your ENGL preamp yet? [...]

No, I haven't. TBH the power amp emulation they had in the WOS software was horrible. But I'm definitely curious to see if they also improved that with the Genome software.

 

[Progressive_disclosure]

The ‘Rampage’ model (ENGL Savage) sounds simply incredible.

Is this transferable to the Opus as well?

 

[2dor]

Is this transferable to the Opus as well?

Unfortunately no.

 

[Ross Davies]

I've downloaded the demo today and I'm actually quite impressed. I didn't expect Two Notes to have made such a big leap forward in terms of quality. The ‘Rampage’ model (ENGL Savage) sounds simply incredible.

Well done! @Ross Davies

Thanks so much man! I will let our team know now!