Turns out I dig V30s
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JiveTurkey
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What about the WGS Veteran 30s? If some of these Celestion "alternatives" were still $30-$40 cheaper like it seems like they used to be; I'd give them a go.
James Freeman
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I really like Vintage 30 too, particularly the brighter Chinese ones.
The smoother V30 is bettter for recording with an SM57 but in person the brighter speaker sounds like the recorded sound.
The smoother V30 is bettter for recording with an SM57 but in person the brighter speaker sounds like the recorded sound.
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The worst sounding V30’s I’ve had sounded so bad in the room I barely wanted to put a mic in front of them. The ones that record well always sound good in the room, but sometimes ones that sound good in the room can be fussy under the mic.
newholland
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i only like them paired with something else. man i hate that skranky top end. just too much- i know it's a boon for modern recording to fit in mixes, but it just refuses to integrate into ensembles to my ears being as pokey as it is. as a rhythm-primarily player they just never lay back, and i ride my tone knob. i just never need or want that much grain.
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The Celestion V30s BadCat use are not doped at the Celestion factory in Suffolk .
Apparently not doping makes a lot of difference .
I’ve not heard any yet.
Apparently not doping makes a lot of difference .
I’ve not heard any yet.
EOengineer
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Man I’ve had BATTLES getting good recorded sounds out of V30s too.
I’ve had some luck using ribbons and/or pushing further towards the far edge of the cone. I basically record dark to negate some of the spiky stuff but still have some work to do. Probably why I don’t own a V30 cab.
The York Audio Mesa V30 cabs all sound awesome.
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I find V30’s quite forgiving to mic up, plenty of positions sound pretty good to me. T75’s on the other hand….Man I’ve had BATTLES getting good recorded sounds out of V30s too.
I’ve had some luck using ribbons and/or pushing further towards the far edge of the cone. I basically record dark to negate some of the spiky stuff but still have some work to do. Probably why I don’t own a V30 cab.
The York Audio Mesa V30 cabs all sound awesome.
James Freeman
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Here's a little piece of information that everyone who records Celestion speakers should know:
1. The biggest variation in frequency response between a smooth Celestion and a spiky one is the 5-6kHz region, right where the drop-off begins.
2. The SM57 boost the 5-6kHz region by 7dB.
If you get Celestions with extended frequency response which are usually Chinese ones but not always, the SM57 will not be the best mic for it.
I assume golden age 60-70's Celestions and '87-'04 V30 were smoother so the SM57 sounded 'correct' on them.
That's why I prefer extended range Chinese V30 in the room, but a smoother V30 infront of an SM57.
Marshall Vintage vs Marshall Greenback in my personal cabs.
Glen Fricker Old vs New V30 video:
SM57:
1. The biggest variation in frequency response between a smooth Celestion and a spiky one is the 5-6kHz region, right where the drop-off begins.
2. The SM57 boost the 5-6kHz region by 7dB.
If you get Celestions with extended frequency response which are usually Chinese ones but not always, the SM57 will not be the best mic for it.
I assume golden age 60-70's Celestions and '87-'04 V30 were smoother so the SM57 sounded 'correct' on them.
That's why I prefer extended range Chinese V30 in the room, but a smoother V30 infront of an SM57.
Marshall Vintage vs Marshall Greenback in my personal cabs.
Glen Fricker Old vs New V30 video:
SM57:
newholland
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this is definitely not true. theyre a great rock speaker, but i dont like them just cause i find they just resist cleaning up nicely with your volume knob, and they have their tonal thing that doesnt rinse out. i especially hate v30s open back cause it makes all of it worse. theyre not bad speakers- they just do a thing.
Baba
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I forgot to include the rolling laughing emoji in my post. Editing now . . .
newholland
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ha! fair, fair.
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I’ve been V30 curious for a while now (even though I have experience with them but years ago)
Local used shop has a Mesa f100 combo loaded with v30s for $425…. Speakers alone must justify close to half of that…. Possibly just in a late night manic state but there’s a less than 0 chance I roll in there tomorrow and grab it if someone doesn’t talk me off the ledge…..
Local used shop has a Mesa f100 combo loaded with v30s for $425…. Speakers alone must justify close to half of that…. Possibly just in a late night manic state but there’s a less than 0 chance I roll in there tomorrow and grab it if someone doesn’t talk me off the ledge…..
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Marshall vintage are exactly the same, just a different sticker, also made in China.
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G12V is made in England. It’s the “original” V30. Usually 16 Ω, if you want to compare to V30’s then make sure not to use an 8 Ω one.
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I agree with that. I find that they are a good band volume rock/metal speaker, but I don't like playing them by myself that much.
A lot of manufacturers have tried to make "V30 except ...." speakers and they always seem like they miss the mark. If you soften that upper mid spike you lose some of what makes the V30 sound...but that V30 sound is also why they can be grating for lower gain tones.
Out of the ones I've tried, I think BluGuitar did a great job with their "Greenback meets V30" speakers because they lean more Greenback rather than "V30 except ...". They are only available with their own cabs though.
